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Homophobia claims by same-sex marriage advocates are bullying : Comments

By Gary Johns, published 23/3/2016

In attempting to de-normalise heterosexuality under the guise of bullying, Safe Schools went ­beyond its brief.

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As readers may know, I don't like personal attacks, I find them so distressing and almost always quite unnecessary.

But, AyameTan, you're a moron. Take your own advice:

" ... C*^&servative and tyrannical. Because that's what policies and people who only care about their own civil rights genuinely are."

People who don't have cancer should be able to get treatment for cancer ? Married couples pay half income tax ? The right to visit your spouse or de facto in hospital ? Where do you get these half-witted ideas from ? The Unsafe Schools program perhaps ?

Advice: Stay at school, ignore the hordes of bullies and apply yourself - by the time you reach Year 10, much will become clearer.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:59:33 AM
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Just more Extreme Right wing Rubbish and BS was the usual suspect
Posted by John Ryan, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 11:10:58 AM
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John, the thousands of years old practise of marriage is " extreme right wing rubbish?"
Who knew?
Posted by Big Nana, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 11:33:58 AM
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Hi John.

"Just more Extreme Right wing Rubbish and BS was the usual suspect."

If you wish to change people's attitudes, the onus is on you to persuade them: your case is not helped by insulting people, or trying to (I'm pretty sure we're a thick-skinned bunch). Do you want to demonstrate a case for something, or just empty your dunny cart ?

As they say, he who asserts must provide evidence, otherwise whatever he claims can be ignored. In Latin, 'Asseritur gratis, negatur gratis.'

The alternative is that, by simply throwing insults, you leave the field of evidence open to alternative viewpoints, which only make your mountain that much harder to climb over, eventually. Or, of course, show to all and sundry that you have no case at all. Ah - hence the insults ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 11:56:02 AM
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Garry Johns wrote -
"In its pastoral letter, “Don’t Mess With Marriage”, the Australian Catholic Bishops reminded readers that “every man, woman and child has great dignity and worth”. Federal Greens candidate, and same-sex marriage advocate, Martine Delaney hauled Archbishop of Hobart Julian Porteous before the Tasmanian anti-­discrimination commission to justify his view on marriage. This smacks of hubris."

Yet, Ms Delaney said the language used in the booklet, that "messing with marriage is messing with kids", implied criminal activity.

"In Australian society 'messing with kids' is generally used right across the country as virtually code for sexual abuse or paedophilia," she said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-28/anti-discrimination-complaint-an-attempt-to-silence-the-church/6810276

"To quietly sort of add that to the booklet to me suggests that there is an attempt to lay some insinuations to make some statements without being honest about what you're saying."

She said some of the content breached a section of Tasmania's Anti-Discrimination Act, making it illegal to insult offend or humiliate an individual or group on the basis of a listed attribute.

"It appears to be a whole lot of statements of Catholic belief but then it also makes quite bold, and I think very questionable, statements," she said.

The Catholic Weekly acknowledges Delany's position -

https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/anti-discrimination-commissioner-reportedly-finds-archbishop-julian-porteous-in-possible-breach-of-act/

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Posted by McReal, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 1:25:11 PM
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"Rest assured, there is no discrimination in law against gay people."

Yes, there is. Given how societies and it's members now view homosexuality.
Posted by McReal, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 1:28:53 PM
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