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Shame effects: the risks from public debates and bigotry about the Safe Schools program : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 3/3/2016

Through its diversity education training, the Safe Schools Coalition program makes some small headway into trying to make a broader range of sexualities and genders seem normal.

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Big Nana how can you teach kids about contraception without discussing the types and when it should be used. You also need to teach them about STD... the Pill is a great contraceptive but not so good at protecting against STD.
You also have to be clear with kids what sexual acts are and what appropriate protection people should use. You know "tell me were the priest touched you"

As for Porn not representing normal behavior well that is debatable, what Porn are you talking about?

I'd even take issue with this "importance of emotional input in sexual relationships" why? these is nothing wrong with casual sex it might not be something that I would do but many do do.

It's a fine line what i would call a neutral explanation and exploration of sexual practices, you clearly are calling indoctrination. I guess that's based on the idea that if you show anything other then what you think of as normal then your somehow corrupting the kids. When the reality is if we are honest about it normal encompasses and very wide range of experiences and feelings.

Anal sex in hetro's couples is very common should we be teaching kids one that it happens and two how it can be performed safely?
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 3 March 2016 2:08:42 PM
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'Anal sex in hetro's couples is very common should we be teaching kids one that it happens and two how it can be performed safely?'

Yeah Cobber I am sure all those 11 year old girls can't wait. Sick!
Posted by runner, Thursday, 3 March 2016 2:48:52 PM
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The people that want to promote this kind of material to primary school students are little more than mental paedophiles.

They do not mess with the bodies of children but the minds and emotions and it is just as damaging to impressionable young people who trust the adults in their lives. Just as sexual paedophiles create terrible doubt in children about what their bodies are for and who has rights over their bodies these people create doubts in children over what it is necessary for them to know in order to survive and be happy in their childish world.

When kids are abused by a paedophile they are shocked. No one has prepared them for being used as a sex object. It comes totally out of the blue. It violates their child like scope of the world and makes them wonder what else lies round the corner that they have not yet been prepared for. They immediately become wary and defensive and lose all their sense of wonder. They no longer trust adults because now they know that adults can spring things on them without warning and which cause a great deal of confusion and stress.

We have things like censorship in order to protect children from being exposed to realities that they are not yet ready to cope with. Education programs are geared towards what kids can handle and not what adults can handle. They are given information at a pace that is in keeping with their maturity. You also make the learning logical. You explain to them how such knowledge fits into the world as they see it from a child’s perspective not an adult’s.

When you begin telling primary school kids that some people tuck their penis or bind their chests you also have to tell them why you are giving them this information. When you are explaining the facts of life to a child you give them as much information as they need to know as a child – you do not give them the Kama Sutra or a password to adult sites.

cont.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 3 March 2016 3:09:18 PM
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cont.

These programs violate children for the gratification of adults and that is paedophilia in any language. These adults are not trying to stop bullying. They have already learnt that all bullying is wrong and bullying kids with sexual issues comes under the umbrella of all. If the aim is to stop bullying then you should just say that all bullying is wrong and that is all any kid needs to know. All this other information is not necessary except for the paedophiles who introduce it. They only want to introduce not for the sake of those being bullied but to reassure themselves that such behaviour is valid.

If they truly believed what they are teaching is reasonable behaviour they would wait until kids ask about it but they don’t because they are trying to convince themselves that it is reasonable behaviour and they are prepared to abuse children just for that reason.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 3 March 2016 3:10:44 PM
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Rob Cover:

“I don't think we can argue that preventing harm to genitals by correct information is any more sexually-explicit than teaching children correct genital hygiene.”

Well some of us can argue – you do not speak for everyone.

Primary school kids need to know about genital hygiene because they have genitals that need to be kept hygienic. They do not need to know the correct method of penis tucking because they do not need to tuck their penis. When they are ready to tuck their penis there should be information available to them. Tucking your penis is a sexual thing – cleaning your penis is a matter of good bodily hygiene. Why teach sexual techniques to people who have no inclination for sex?
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 3 March 2016 3:43:11 PM
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'Primary school kids need to know about genital hygiene because they have genitals that need to be kept hygienic. They do not need to know the correct method of penis tucking because they do not need to tuck their penis. When they are ready to tuck their penis there should be information available to them. Tucking your penis is a sexual thing – cleaning your penis is a matter of good bodily hygiene. Why teach sexual techniques to people who have no inclination for sex?'

but Phanto its all about bullying!
Posted by runner, Thursday, 3 March 2016 3:46:15 PM
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