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An Iraqi Sunni state is a prerequisite to defeating ISIS : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 23/2/2016

Iraq's partition into three entities became de facto immediately following the Iraq war in 2003.

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A propos of the fragmentary nature of tribal societies, particularly in relation to Muslim entities, this history is fascinating:

http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/a-brief-history-of-balochistan/

Balochis are closely related to Kurds ? Who would have known ? But we forget that, before the Arab invasions, i.e. the invasions by the religion of peace - yeah, those ones - all of Mesopotamia, and well into Iran, was populated by Kurds, who would have been scattered all over the place by the peaceful invasions. Khachaturian's ballet, Gayaneh, set in Armenia, is actually set in a Kurdish village in Armenia. Salah-ud-Din - Saladin - was a Kurd, born in Tikrit, by the way. Arab occupation and displacement of earlier populations is relatively recent.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 3:55:56 PM
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There was also the slaughter of Christians
In Aleppo and Damascus by the Muslims of the Ottoman Empire
Back in the 1800's

It makes me wonder how much of this war with The allawarte tribe around Assad (in
And around Damascus and Aleppo)
And the so called moderate Sunni Muslim rebels, goes back to that era.

In regard to the Us supporting the Sunni Muslims,well
In Syria they are on side with the moderate Sunni Muslims.

Putin however probably identifies any Muslim as being related to the Ottoman Empire
Who almost wiped out the Europeans in Europe at one stage.
Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 8:48:10 PM
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Syria and Iraq are two more unstable multicultural states which are coming apart at the seams. The solution is to create stable monocultural states where one defining culture is pre eminent.

it just amazes me that the people who support multiculturalism in Australia can not see this self evident fact. How many times does multiculturalism need to fail before they can flash on this simple concept? When something is obviously failing, why do they want to emulate it?

Kurds want to be ruled by Kurds, Sunnis want to be ruled by Sunnis, and Shiites want to be ruled by Shiites. Stick them all in Australia and nothing will change. They will accept minority status and the suppression of their own culture for only as long as they are in a minority. But when they become a majority, even within a localised area, they will demand autonomy.

A hundred years from now, Australia, the worlds only united continent, will begin to fragment into separate countries. This process has already begun with aboriginal only areas with their separate "aboriginal" flag. The importation of unassimilatable immigrant groups was the most stupid idea ever dreamed up by the elites.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 2:53:01 AM
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As in Iraq the Sunni and Shiite populations are so intermixed separate states are not an option.

The solution is one government with strong, separately funded local government to enable self determination.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 7:29:36 AM
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In all Middle Eastern countries, and many others besides, there is a multitude of differe3nt ethnic groups - Iran has a few hundred. It's not a simple matter of Sunni & Shia, with Kurds thrown in. There are Assyrians, Chaldeans, Turkmens, Yazidis, Jews, Armenians, Turks, Turcomans, Azeris, etc. etc. in Iraq. That' how it is. They have co-existed, perhaps uneasily, for millennia..

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 9:06:49 AM
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Dear LEGO,

<<A hundred years from now, Australia, the worlds only united continent, will begin to fragment into separate countries.>>

I say Amen to this.

It is obscene and corrupting for any regime to rule over such a huge area.
Once there are many smaller countries, they will compete for good people to join them and the first thing they will do to attract people will be to repeal draconic laws against individuals.

Perhaps it will be too late for me personally, but in a hundred years, at least some of those smaller countries will allow their citizens to ride a bicycle without having to wear a pot over their heads.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 9:28:07 AM
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