Thanks Killarney and LEGO,

I was struggling to find some way to attribute the mass assaults and rapes in Cologne to the West, so your explanations are most welcome.

In future, no matter what happens in Europe in relation to any Muslims, we can be confident that it's been the West's fault all along.

Go for it, fellas ! Finger away !

Joe

Killarney writes: "All countries find their own way forward when left in peace."

The Middle East was left in peace for hundreds of years whilst with bloodied swords in hand Muslims merrily advanced Islam across Egypt, North Africa, Spain, and elsewhere in the Mediterranean and southern Europe. Muslims then pushed their way Eastwards into Afghanistan, what is now Pakistan, and India, leaving a trail of human corpses behind them.

Eventually they were pushed out of Europe and parts of the Middle East by Crusaders (who were a long-delayed reaction to Islamic violence against Christians and Christian pilgrims).

So no - if you leave them in peace they won't subside into peace, they will always wield the sword.

Loudmouth: Eventually they were pushed out of parts of the Middle East by Crusaders (who were a long-delayed reaction to Islamic violence against Christians and Christian pilgrims).

Well Partially right. You see, the Middle East belonged to the Eastern Holy Roman Empire before the moslems took it by force. The Capital being Constantinople. The Crusaders were trying to restore their own Empire with the help of the Western Holy Roman Empire. One that was stolen from them by the moslems.

Jayb,

I'm honoured to take the credit for Voter's post. You do me proud :)

In case someone else drags up the Crusades out of the rubbish dump of history yet again, we should put all of that in some temporal context:

* much of the Levant was under the Greeks from the time of Alexander, given over to one of his generals, Seleucis I think;

* from around 80 BC, the Romans occupied all of that area and beyond;

* from around 200 AD (?), much of the area had converted to Christianity, and remained so until the Arab invasions in the 630s;

* the Christians and Arabs fought over the area for a few hundred years, from around 1080 (?) onwards, control swinging to and fro, until the total destruction of all Byzantine political entities and the conquest of Constantinople by the religion of peace in 1453;

* the Turkish Sultan had absolute power over the region, as a vilayet, until early last century, ruling over separated ghettoes of Jews, Christians, Yazidis, Alawites, etc. on payment of the jizra.

In between times, the Mongols, Seljuk Turks and then the Ottomans, conquered all or part of the region, with enough brutality to satisfy even the most fundamental of ISIS psychotics.

Gosh, it must have been a fun time to live in those parts over the last couple of thousand years.

But whatever happens there now, we can be confident that the west would be to blame - conflict has rarely been endogenous to the region. The people are more or less blameless, never swayed by idiot ideologies. Quite amazing people.

Joe

loudmouth: Gosh, it must have been a fun time to live in those parts over the last couple of thousand years.

Yes, that's why I advocate that the West ship every moslem, Minor, Moderate or otherwise back to the Middle East & close the borders behind them. Seal the borders completely, Remove any & all Western influence's, Give them no arms & let them go for it. Should only take six months & the region would be peaceful. Might be very few people left but who really gives a S#!t.

We could watch as nightly entertainment on TV, courtesy of Satellites.

Rotherham = Cronulla Mark II.
Cologne = Rotherham Mark II = Cronulla Mark III.

All the direct consequence of PC appeasement.

It was French philosopher [Pierre] Manent who defined political correctness as "The language used by those who are terrified of what would happen if they stopped lying".