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Western civilisation is adrift in the world of ideas : Comments

By Pete Mulherin, published 14/1/2016

The groupthink of Left orthodoxy is accelerating the demise of liberal values on which Western culture was built.

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"What they teach are fairy tales and they have set a once great Empire adrift from
It's own people, culture and loyalties,leading slowly to its ultimate demise."
In a century far, far away..
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 17 January 2016 6:09:19 AM
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Loudmouth,
I do agree with you, that intermarriage between the different races
Will produce a stronger more resilient race.
The trouble is if you say that, there are many who want to accuse you
Of racism for even mentioning that kind of integration.

Although it seems to me the racism is squarely on the other foot with
These people, and what they want to pursue is a segregated tribal culture
You know the one, where Muslim daddy is horrified if his daughter wants
To marry a non Arab muslim and promptly ships the daughter off for a holiday to
Iran to marry her off.
Jewish mother goes into meltdown when her son becomes engaged to an Australian
Girl.
But this behaviour is not just practised by the religious groups,it's been documented
Throughout history in lots of non religious groups too. Including the whites
And the blacks.
The Greeks did it too, when they first came here.

If there is enough time and prosperity here for that kind of intergration to occur.
Then I have no worries or objections to multiculturalism.

If it doesn't occur and even one tribe ever gets big enough opposing numbers
To challenge for control then we will see civil war, and Australia divided up
Into 2 countries.

That’s exactly the inherent danger with multi tribalism.
Which is what I keep trying to make people see, so we can foster integration
And avoid future conflict and bloodshed.

Multiculturalism won't work unless we look at the ways it will work
And work at promoting that cohesion and behaviour.
Start with the truth and go from there.

Inbred anything is weak, hurrah, for intermarriage and the strong beautiful
Race it will result in.
Added bonus,no war and conflict like we see in other countries.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 17 January 2016 4:55:47 PM
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Loudmouth,
One other point.

You say, there is no genetic memory.

But there is basic biology.
Basic biology in all species, including the human species,
Dictates that we will protect our biological offspring(children)
With every resource we can provide, even our lives if necessary.

We recognise that our children,our brothers and sisters,parents
Aunts and uncles, cousins, and our immediate bloodline through tribal
Intermarriage are the closest kin and our biology drives us to provide
For and protect them first. It's basically a race for genetic immortality.

We need no genetic memory. Or a genetic geaneology science book, to
Know who those people are. It is immediately obvious.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 17 January 2016 5:10:31 PM
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Hi Cherful,

Urban Indigenous people have an inter-marriage rate of more than 90 %.

Amongst Muslims, there are so many groups - Sunni and Shia, and sub-groups within those, based on place of origin, sect and so on. A Shia family may disapprove of a marriage with a Sunni. An Arab Sunni family may disapprove of a marriage with a non-Arab. A Lebanese family may disapprove of a marriage with, say, an Indonesian. I'd suggest that there aren't too many marriages between Muslims from the Middle East and Muslims from sub-Saharan Africa.

On the other hand, many Muslims would be quite comfortable with such marriages - people marrying other people who they love and want to spend their lives with.

As well, many Muslims would be quite comfortably integrated with the general Australian population rather than with any particular micro-community. So the Muslim 'community' is really a great number of 'communities'.

It's a bit like the way Australians may perceive Africans in Australia, as if they are all from one single 'community', when in reality, of course, it depends where they come from in Africa - and Africa is a huge continent. There are many different Sudanese groups, for example, some of whom don't get on too well. And, of course, some do.

Similarly Latin Americans. Similarly 'Asians'. Those we may perceive as 'Indians' probably don't speak the same Indian languages, except English.

So multiculturalism has meant perhaps thousands of different groups, all in varying degrees of integration with the general Australian population, often inter-marrying, perhaps second- or third- or fourth-generation. Many Chinese can trace their ancestry in Australia back for maybe eight generations. It's a technicolor world, and non-Anglos would know that far better than Anglos, because after all, Australia has always been a multicultural world for them.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 17 January 2016 5:21:29 PM
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Suesonline
“Mad wars over land and between tribes are usually contained
To third world countries”.

How do you then explain the guerilla warlike attacks (Terror attacks)
In European and Western countries by a group that wants world
Control(a caliphate world wide)
Hitler wanted world control too. Same as Isis, only not covered by a religious
Smokescreen.

I’d call them territorial attacks not terror attacks.
You think my use of the word tribe is a primitive term that no longer applies.

I think the word ethnic is a term used by the academics and supremacists
thinkers who can't stand having the word tribal associated with themselves.

Sort of the same way as the British looked down their noses at primitive tribes
To whom they thought they were extremely advanced and superior. They
Still see tribes as inferior that's why they won't describe themselves as being
from a tribe. Ironical isn't it when they are always holier than thou
About supremacist thinking in other people.

It suits the societal engineering of the left hippy mob,to push the word ethnic
So they can promote genetic links to all mankind and push their brotherhood
Of man ideology.

However, it is more revealing as to what is happening in the world to use
The word tribe.
For instance, the war in Palestine, is a bloody territorial dogfight over the
Land, between the Palestinian Arab tribe and Israelie tribe.

Wars and civil wars over control of land finished?after happening non
Stop across history right up until the present day.
I don't think so.

Human tribes are as territorial as any lion in Africa and for the same reasons.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 17 January 2016 9:29:26 PM
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