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Paris climate agreement is a triumph of hope over facts : Comments

By Tom Switzer, published 4/1/2016

The prestige of the international community is not great enough to achieve a communal spirit sufficiently unified to discipline recalcitrant nations.

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Steel without coal, interesting concept.
Certainly needs carbon (plus a few more elements), perhaps not coal as such.
Posted by ateday, Monday, 4 January 2016 4:43:16 PM
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To reiterate, we don't need to use coal to build anything when we have massive deposits of cheaper than coal thorium, and are able to build truck transportable modules, which can be trucked wherever needed and supplying low cost (half price) industrial power within days.

and just bolt on extra modules as the need arises. Decommissioning done in reverse and just as simply and inexpensively.

And given localized power is vastly cheaper than anything supplied by a largely foreign controlled gold plated national grid, allow this huge white elephant to die a natural death by supplying much cheaper localized, by the people, for the people, power.

Yes sure, a few will lose if we reclaim the right to produce affordable power and in so doing, resuscitate our own manufacturing industries.

And all the reason we need to just ignore the objections, particularly those coming from debt laden foreign speculators, and just crack on with decarbing the economy, in ways as outlined, that quite massively grow it!

Nothing to fear here Bazz, except fear itself!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 4 January 2016 5:01:34 PM
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the non religous doomsayers are at it again. Ignore real problems and reinvent outdated ones. How r the dams in Sydney these days Tim?
Posted by runner, Monday, 4 January 2016 5:08:02 PM
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Runner you know very well that Proftim said it was Brisbane where it would never rain. That was before catastrophic flooding twice!
My offer is still there to help Tim and Karoly out and buy their waterfront properties for ten dollars each, without any success.
Still we have abundant Thorium and local power so we are covered.
Here's the thing if Al Gore stopped flying in his personal jets to his mansions, the greens and labour politicians were restricted to only rail travel which means no overseas surely this could lead the world? The doomsayers here I assume have all pledged not to travel, go solar and wind only and again lead by example?
No I thought not! I will follow you clowns, off you go!
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 4 January 2016 5:35:20 PM
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it did not stop the doomsayers living in affluence in the 70's when an ice age was being predicted so nothings changed.
Posted by runner, Monday, 4 January 2016 5:44:34 PM
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Thanks Aiden
What I meant was wet bulb temperature, where humidity and temperature are high and people are not able to perspire, a deadly condition.
Thousands of people did die from near wet bulb temperature in a range of countries; those countries being India, Pakistan, Japan, Cyprus and Middle East earlier in the year, hospitals were over run with huge numbers suffering the impact of near wet bulb temperature ( per Robert Scribbler).

Plantagenet

Man is very involved in deforestation which has an impact on climate change, the water table gets impacted on. The 11 year ARM study certainly showed how the interaction between CO2 and infrared radiated long waves react to cause warming. The study was conducted in the environment creating data relating to what happens in nature. The study showed the exact forcing that scientists have been talking about for many decades.
Posted by ant, Monday, 4 January 2016 6:48:19 PM
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