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A grim future for the ALP : Comments

By Syd Hickman, published 29/9/2015

There are at least ten reasons the ALP will be crushed at the next election, to be held when it suits the government.

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Don't worry as new leader of the calibre of Jeremy Corbyn, will emerge and take the labour party back to where it started as a party for the people and not for big business.
As the economy droops down and unemployment increases the 1% will take refuge in their gated bolt holes leaving the rest to survive if they can.
China is the pointer. If it continues on down, it will take us with it.
Posted by Robert LePage, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 8:38:10 AM
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Big call with unconvincing support to the point of wishful thinking.

"The easiest ALP stories are now the negative ones" isn't this how the Libs got in..people voting the Labour Government out not the Libs in.

If you listen to Tony's supporters then it's only a matter of time for Malcolm to show his turn colors.

I hope not i hope the mob of them get on with what their there for and run the country for the better of us all.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 9:16:18 AM
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To early to say to much about Turnbull. Lets remember elections are lost and not won. Take Abbott for example, no one in their right mind would intentionally chose abbott over anyone else. But they did.

Turnbull on paper looks good, until we get some real legislation going to test the mans direction we are only guessing. His longer term viability will then be assessed.

At the moment his support is coming from a fair share of labor supporters. To maintain that share can be a juggling act and his party may not like that.

Criticism against Labor is only wishful thinking, Public opinion is not dramatically against Labor.

We need to see in future polls as to where Turnbull is headed. A mere two weeks in power is nothing to judge any opinion on. We need to see unemployment coming down and investor money’s being deployed.

It is useless saying we created 5000 jobs if unemployment is rising. That sort of information does not win any sort of support, in fact it does more damage than saying nothing at all.

Howard was a good PM until he made one crucial mistake.
Turnbull has the makings of being a good PM, even without the support of the conservative Abbott supporters or the liberal Right of centre supporters.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 9:43:41 AM
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Methinks author speak with forked tongue:

1. 10 months to the next election (August 2016) is a long time in politics (only a usually unpopular Double Dissolution Before August)

2. Shorten could be replaced before August by someone (Tanya Plibersek?) more popular

3. Turnbull is still in his Honeymoon phase so assessments are distortingly optimistic about him.

4. Turnbull often has a please everyone do-nothing style when in power.

5. a drop in revenue means the Turnbull Govt needs to make unpopular financial decisions that will turn-off many voters

6. much legislation will be frustratingly stopped in the Senate due to ongoing Greens-ALP-Independent dominance

7. leadership polls that start to trend downward have their own momentum to oust leaders (even Turnbull)

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 1:57:45 PM
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Turnbull is highly electable, but that does not mean the liberal party is. I suspect that the next election will be very close with quite a high risk of a hung Parliament.

The Labor party has a stack of ammunition it can throw at the Libs come the next election, it only has to remind the typical voter how much the Libs have ripped from the so called hip pocket. It is very hard to see that the Libs have achieved anything in the past two years other than stopping a few rickety boats getting here and even that it could be argued was mainly the result of Rudd's last hurrah. I can't see Turnbull being able to achieve much if anything in the time left, already we see the Libs still managing to get offside with sections of the community such as the AMA.
Posted by warmair, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 1:59:29 PM
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Just listened to Tony's 2GB interview, he is not going quietly. Going to be the Libs version of Rudd/Gilard/Rudd.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 2:50:00 PM
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We should all remember how hard it was for Howard, in the early years. He had a rather urbane, Turnbull like bit of fluff who's name I can't remember, he had to see off. Remember the “Lazarus with a triple bypass" quote.

As for Turnbull, I will vote against the coalition if he is leader. His natural tendencies are all against the Australian peoples best interest. He will be trying to sneak in softer border controls, carbon trading, & a host of other left policies.

Personally, if we are to have a lefty PM, I'd rather have the real thing than this idiot with the huge ego. Even Shorten is preferable to Turnbull.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 9:24:14 PM
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To bad hasbeen your favorite man has been deposed, Turnbull will do ok albeit he has only been there 2 weeks. Why not see Australia progress instead of stagnating, everything moves along, you must keep up with the times.

Australia could be in for a good stint of govt; with Turnbull on one side and Shorten on the other. That is one excellent way to go. The coalition needs reforming to weed out the Conservative side of the party. The Conservatives should be a separate party. It had bought the Liberal’s down, and hopefully never gets repeated.

Abbott blabbering on radio, I wouldn’t take any notice of what he says, I mean can you believe anything he says. We heard enough to know his style of information. A new day a new disaster, that was his form.

All the bad news has stopped all of a sudden, what a breather it has been to get some clear air, with Abbott and Hockey going hammer and tongs backing each other up seeing who can come up with the biggest disaster we are headed for. Not to mention all of the terrorism that never happened.

They would have been better off putting some time into solving those fictitious disasters instead of talking them up. When the public has heard enough rhetoric the time to go is neigh. Abbott’s attempt at martial law in Melbourne was the living end. Where did he get that band of goons from, and not heard of since.

Toni says he could have won the next election. How was that going to happen. Was he going to cancel the electoral role, and only let his mates vote. He says nothing has changed, since I was deposed, same policies, same same. Ask the populous where the change is
Posted by doog, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 8:59:55 AM
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A Turnbull Shorten govt; a considerable difference than what we had 3 weeks ago. Morrison needs to give up the slogans and come equipped with proper answers to interviews. Or risk being hacked up by the interviewer.

Abbott seems to have appointed himself minister for radio interviews, and leaving behind little nuggets of gunpowder lying about. Maybe he has turned terrorist. That is a word that has not been heard for 3 weeks.

All of these Abbott funding cuts which we don’t know about, come into fruition next year and 2017. Why all the delay if you are going to cut something, should you be doing the implication at a time when you may not be in power. Or was that designed to be after another election.

Like Abbotts SS Marriage and tax reform after the next election. Why can’t a decision be made before an election.

Turnbull is working on a set of plans that hopefully work, and be popularly appropriate. A different approach is what is needed.

Just because you are PM it does not mean you can dish up any kind of unpopular rubbish and frighten the electorate into taking it.

Morrison as Treasurer has already stuck his nose into someone else’s port folio of social services. He if anybody could be the only fly in the pie in Turnbull’s line up.
Posted by doog, Friday, 2 October 2015 9:50:24 AM
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Both parties are in trouble. For every vote Malcontent Turnbull collects on the left he will lose one to Katter, Hanson, ALA, etc.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Monday, 5 October 2015 6:03:43 AM
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