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Predators and the food chain and preventing the suburban extinction of small native creatures : Comments

By Valerie Yule, published 31/8/2015

Every spring there are fewer little birds. Wrens and tits, which were quite plentiful in our garden twenty years ago, seem to have gone.

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The first, and only, destructive predator to control is Homo Sapiens.
Posted by ateday, Monday, 31 August 2015 8:59:09 AM
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Crows used to avoid cities; now they are common in cities.. Crows are a very interesting and clever bird but, while I have never seen them do it, I'm sure that Valerie has seen crows lording it over other native birds. A cull of city crows would seem to be a solution, but just imagine the cries of the ignorant!

Another problem is that Australians are more interested in the well-being of invading "refugees", foreigners and 457 workers than they are in their own country and its flora and fauna, incuding birdlife most of the dills are not even aware of.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 31 August 2015 10:14:43 AM
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Clever Crows are just aping the cannibal Currawongs, that have done this since time immemorial.

There is a way of keeping troublesome pets in the yard and that is by placing/welding rollers on top of the entire length of pet proof colorbond fences, which also need a concrete edgeway so as to prevent dogs digging/tunneling out in their own version of the great escape!

We need a market for feral cats, [which make great akubras or cat hats], to create an incentive for professional hunters to get out there in our state forests and national parks as organised skirmish lines of feral destruction!

And good practice for young untested soldiers needing to hone their skills on live target feral species.

Some of which are already busy destroying our native forests!

Snail baits may be particularly effective on the feral cat problem, but in my view unnecessarily cruel and avoided entirely with a well placed round to the head!

Pets need to be tagged so we can identify and fine the owners, who should be forced to watch as their non desexed pets are euthanized, with a 22 calibre solution!

And probably more behavior altering therapy than all the slaps on the wrist with wet tram tickets, we are handing out now to repeat offenders who have rights! Or so they believe!

Or alternatively, don't give a rats as they trample all over the rights of others!

Oh for popup sprinklers that not only discourage offending pets from using your unfenced front lawn as their personal toilet, but the owners who leave home without the obligatory poop bag?

Dogs can't read!

Incidentally, dung beetles usually solve this problem while aerating and fertilizing the lawn/yard/public park.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 31 August 2015 11:28:56 AM
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Dear Valerie,

We used to have double barred finches and fairy wrens visit our back yard but haven't seen either in many years. We have rainbow lorikeets, king parrots, pale-headed rosellas and crested pigeons hanging around the seed feeder. My wife throws bits of mince meat to the butcher birds, magpies and kookaburras. I think the latter have scared away the wrens and finches.
Posted by david f, Monday, 31 August 2015 4:14:54 PM
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It is a matter of plantings I believe.

I hate Cootamundra wattles, their brambly prunings, are a pain to collect, but they are important to small bird survival. My thicket of them supported by the equally obnoxious asparagus fern growing through them, gives the perfect protected nesting spot for our colony of wrens. They are multiplying.

It is probable that suburban people like their gardens too tidy & "pretty" to offer suitable nesting spots. I have 50 meters of overgrown hibiscus windbreak about 7 meters high & 4 or more thick in which I'm sure silver eyes must next, as I see increasing numbers of them around the bird bath.

A thick clump of Sable Minors of all things also offer safe nesting for many honey eaters attracted to our grevillea, callistemon & Calliandra. Yes much of our almost 2 acres house paddock is planted to exotics, but they have their place, the native birds do very well using them, & I'm not sure they know the difference. They must be overgrown however to offer small birds protection. A tidy garden is a crow heaven.

Incidentally there is nothing like going outside quickly, with a broom handle, or some other item easily mistaken for a rifle to chase the crows off. This has caused the crows to abandon my area. Now can anyone advise me how to frighten off the damn wood ducks.

Removing protection would quickly fix the problem. It only took a couple of shot crows, hanging on a fence to clear a couple of hundred acres of the damn things during lambing season. Yes they are smart, & we must use that against them. Simply being native is no recommendation.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 31 August 2015 10:36:30 PM
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Hasbeen,

There is no solution for wood ducks, but if you can't shoot them then trap them, they are not very bright.

They do have one saving grace, they are good roasted.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 9:14:34 AM
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I grow year round flowers for butterflies and native bees. You just need an area with good sun.

For some types of native bees, you can just provide shelter if you like, eg., some drilled holes on timber (Google).

Indian Myna Pest (don't confuse with the playful Aussie Noisy Miner)
Could dog and cat owners ensure they are not inadvertently feeding the Indian Myna pest?

As well, make one of the simple Indian Myna traps. Phone a local bird breeder who will inform you on the quick mechanical bloodless way to kill.

Rodenticides
Don't use the 'one-shot' poisons because the poison in the rodent's body will kill an owl or other predator.

I don't hand feed any birds or other native animals.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 9:45:00 AM
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Onthebeach, those damn native bees used to give me a hard time when I was hybridising daylilies some years back.

We had a large natural hive of the little ones with the 2 gold bars. They had built it on the side of a cadgee gum, incorporating a couple of branches. It was not a good spot, as the cadgees shed their bark every year. The side branches must have helped as it lasted about 12 years, until a very large storm brought half of it down. I had never before, or since seen this poultice type of hive on the side of a tree trunk.

Those little buggers rose at very first light, & had collected all the pollen from a couple of hundred daylilies very soon thereafter. I had to guess when the flowers would bloom, & cover both the ones I wanted pollen from, & those I wanted to fertilise the night before, then keep the fertilised flower covered all day to avoid the bees changing my choice of donor for me.

They must have a high need for water. There were always large numbers around the bird bath, & a damp spot on a cement water trough, where the cement was a little porous. Strangely they became annoyed when the sprinklers were going near their hive, & would attack & sting anyone who ventured too close at these times.

Nature is truly wonderful, when you have the time to study it.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 9:13:12 PM
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Is Mise, I don't believe you have ever tried to eat a wood duck.

My advice from a once very broke friend was that after 3/4 of an hour pressure cooking, a wood duck was still more use to resole your boot, than put in your mouth.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 12:01:38 AM
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