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State sanctioned murder : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 30/4/2015

There will be considerable public anger from both the left and the right, the former driven by concern for human rights and natural justice, the latter by racism, jingoism and twisted nationalism.

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There is no "fundamental injustice" Bruce Haigh.

The penalty for drug trafficking in Indonesia is death. That fact is universally known and extremely well publicised. Chan and Sukamaran knew it before they went to Indonesia with the planned and conscious intent to break the law. Indonesia could have executed all of the Bali 9 but chose to only shoot the ringleaders, and not the mules.

The President of Indonesia is doing exactly what his people expect him to do by showing no mercy to drug traffickers. There is nothing wrong with a leader making himself popular by doing what his people want him to do.

The people of Indonesia have a sovereign right and a human right to make laws applicable for their own society. With 50 Indonesians dying every day from drug addictions, the executions of drug traffickers is understandable and warranted.

The whole anti death penalty cause is nothing more than an exercise in fashion by a section of the population well known for their contempt of ordinary people and the democratic process. It is also a religious duty by the Catholic Church which is an international business that has no mandate to interfere with the political processes within the countries in which it does business.

Soldiers execute the enemies of their people every day. US drones are executing ISIS fighters, Taliban leaders and Al Qaida operatives and nobody gives a shiit. Where was the media driven outrage when that little bastard Amrozi was executed?
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 2 May 2015 3:35:15 AM
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OK, Brucie, the two premises I take exception to are...

1. The idea that "Australia" opposes the death penalty. Let's have a referenda about that and I will accept it if the majority accepts it. I suspect that the reason why we will never have a referenda on that topic is because our political leaders already know that the death penalty is supported by the majority of Australians. In the USA, politicians who oppose the death penalty get chucked out of office, and those that support it get elected.

2. Claiming that the Indonesian President is weak because he is doing exactly what his electorate want him to do. The Indonesian people want drug traffickers executed. Got that? The Indonesian President is responds to what his people demand. It is to bad that Australian politicians do not follow his example, because if they did, we would never have had Multiculturalism, Muslim immigration would be curtailed, "Australian" terrorists fighting for ISIS would have their citizenship (and their dole cheques) curtailed, and we would probably have the death penalty ourselves.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 4 May 2015 3:18:55 AM
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LEGO, some people are great supporters of all sorts of stern measures that they think will never apply to them or theirs.

And some people are just pricks in a wall around their own minds.
Posted by Craig Minns, Monday, 4 May 2015 7:50:02 AM
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The weasel words of the AFP officers today spelled it out loud and clear - the AFP with quiet LNP government approval operates a death penalty for drug dealers, the executions being outsourced to a country which has been a murderous blot on the face of the earth ever since it was cobbled together as a quisling network by the Jap occupiers in the 1940s.

Should there be a death plenty in Australia? Barnaby Joyce and his fellow-rednecks say yes. The baboons that murdered our five journos at Balibo followed by countless East Timorese and Papuans sure deserve execution but are protected by other baboons higher up the Indo hierarchy. In Australia with our history (at least in WA) of vindictive wrong convictions certainly not. And even less for offences below wilful murder even if guilt is proved up to the hilt.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 4 May 2015 9:47:06 PM
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penalty, not "plenty"
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 4 May 2015 9:50:32 PM
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