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Male champions of change : Comments

By Sarah Russell, published 24/4/2015

The aim of 'Male Champions of Change' is for men in positions of power to advance gender equality. Let's hope they have more luck than women have had in that task.

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".. those who are well off under the existing order of things.."

Before dawn this morning I was on a building site with the men, NO women, although any willing worker is welcome.

I am wondering who are the "well off under the existing order of things"? Not those men and not their partners either.

I suggest that the educated, middle class women who ARE feminism were always advantaged. Fat lot they care about anyone else and they certainly don't represent women. They do want a free leg-up to cosy jobs on the boards of public and private companies though to round off lifetimes of riding the gravy train, usually paid for by the exasperated taxpayer.

It will be a very long cold day in Hell before the educated, middle class women who ARE feminism give a hoot about the women outside of their clique, or ever accept that the great majority of women do NOT choose career first and exclusively, but usually through their own choice go through a number of transitions in life.

All aboard for the gravy train? As far as the feminist clique are concerned that would apply exclusively to Emily's Listers. Now they really could be considered as "those who are well off under the existing order of things", and they want more of a good thing.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 24 April 2015 1:48:05 PM
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Male Champions of Change won't make one jot of difference in reducing domestic violence.

"One in three" is a constant in the domestic violence discourse. Its a conflation of a few instances of severe violence with a vast heap of petty behaviors (say one push or put down.) made to look as though it all severe violence. Its a bit like the mathematical constant Pi...whilst we have taxpayer funded womens' organisations, it will forever be. It doesn't matter how much taxpayer money is thrown at the problem.

The feminist who came up with "one in three" constant should be given a Nobel prize.
Posted by Roscop, Friday, 24 April 2015 2:50:21 PM
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What is the point of these juvenile articles full of so much free floating disenchantment about the way things are. There is nothing in this article which has not been said a thousand times over.

If things are so bad then stop whinging and do something about it. Things would change much quicker if women got up and did something about it instead of this incessant nagging and bemoaning. So desperate to have everything fall in to line they have now appealed to Male Champions to do the work for them. Black people in America, who suffered as much if not more oppression than women ever have, did not achieve the equality which they now enjoy by sitting around whingeing all day. They took action.

No one is going to change because they have been nagged into changing. Who would want a woman like Sarah in a position of power where she would spend all the taxpayer’s dollars complaining about how awful everything was. Nor would we want Suseonline in power either because she wastes her time trying to support such tripe.
Posted by phanto, Friday, 24 April 2015 2:51:39 PM
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ConservativeHippie

"Women advocating gender equality will not be satisfied until such time 50% of CEO's; 50% of politicians (including cabinet members and party leaders); 50% of professional athletes; 50% of professional / popular musicians; 50% of the military, including high ranking officers; 50%+ school principals and university lecturers; and probably 50% of train drivers, truck drivers, lawyers, doctors, scientists, construction workers, electricians, plumbers, and chippies, white collar and blue collar workers are women, earning exactly the same wage as their male counterparts?"

Do you mean whilst costing employers more (eg workers compensation/maternity leave etc etc) and contributing less (eg. women professional tennis players)?
Posted by Roscop, Friday, 24 April 2015 3:01:13 PM
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<Sarah you will get nothing but vitriolic rants about this subject on this male dominated
< forum.
I too hope this group of men can make a difference in the fight for equality and improved
< safety for women in the home. Nothing else has worked so far.

\Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 24 April 2015 10:20:14 AM

So Suzie what are you saying?

Are you saying that you only want men to agree with you, and only to discuss things that you agree with?

Are you saying that Men must be seen but not heard?

So is this equality? Where men are only allowed to agree with feminists.
Posted by Wolly B, Friday, 24 April 2015 3:58:28 PM
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The last Government was a fine example of what incompetence and stupidity it is to use quota systems to promote people.
Posted by runner, Friday, 24 April 2015 4:13:24 PM
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