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It’s time to review Australia’s gun control laws : Comments

By Stuart Horrex, published 16/1/2015

We need stronger gun control measures, not more people with guns.

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Suse,

"A study by two New York City cardiologists found that the U.S. has 88 guns per 100 people and 10 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people - more than any of the other 27 developed countries they studied."

Rather a restricted study, now I just picked the top 14 countries for'Firearm related deaths' and found
Honduras 64.80/100,000 population
Venezuela 50.90
El Salvador 46.85
and in decreasing numbers till we reach the USA in 14th place with 10.3

Which just goes to shew that the US is a safe place.

For details see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 17 January 2015 8:58:45 PM
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We must first take the guns off our Govts before dis-arming our populations. Mao murdered 60 million of his own people. Starlin murdered 40 million of his own people. Hitler at least 6 million. Millions killed in Vietnam and Cambodia during those illegal wars. At least 2 million killed in Iraq.180 million people were killed during WW2.

The biggest killers are our own Govts, so we need to disarm them first.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 17 January 2015 10:00:20 PM
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Susieonline has completely missed my point, which is that current rates of firearm homocide in Australia are exactly in line with a trend that began many, many years before the current legislative regime came into effect.

Lionising those involved in 1990s legislation changes serves only to reward the cynical application of political expediency at the expense of completely uninvolved constituents.

Hardly a monument to inclusive society.
Posted by The Mild Colonial Boy, Saturday, 17 January 2015 11:04:11 PM
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No Mind Colonial Boy, you missed my point!
I used your own data to make my own point, which Legob then took and added his own racist slant to.

Legob, it doesn't really matter what race or culture in the US are shooting each other with guns, the fact remains that that country has a huge problem with guns.

It seems that arming 2 thirds of the 'law-abiding, God-fearing, gun-loving'" citizens of that country hasn't really helped to keep the crime rate down at all has it?

And no, I am not talking about Muslims or terrorists on this thread.....just guns.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 18 January 2015 2:22:34 AM
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Dear Susioncrack and Plantagenet. If you really are serious about reducing violent crime, here are some interesting statistics that may stimulate some neuronal activity within your vestigial brains as to what should be banned.

Danmark Aftenposten April 16: “Alarming rise in reported rapes in Oslo“:
In Oslo, 100 percent of rapes are committed by non-Western immigrants with a “view of women” that makes them rape, according to the leading police officer, Hanne Kristin Rohde. With 76 rapes during the first 91 days of 2012, the number of rapes in Oslo has increased by an alarming 69 percent compared to the same period last year.

Daily Telegraph Feb 9 2010
Sydney has Australia's largest proportion of Middle Eastern-born residents, but in a city of more than four million people they still number only about 120,000. Undeniably the community is disproportionately represented in criminal activity.

Somalis have five times the crime rate in Victoria and their unemployment rate is four times the national average.

London police hold black men responsible for more than two-thirds of shootings and more than half of robberies and street crimes in London, according to figures released by Scotland Yard. In London, in 1983, Blacks made up 13% of the population but accounted for 50% of the crime.

U.S. crime statistics found that whereas Blacks made up less than 13% of the population they accounted for 50% of all arrests for assault and murder and 67% of all arrests for robbery. . Blacks assaulted Whites 60 times more frequently than Whites assaulted Blacks. The 1987 U.S. Department of Justice showed that whereas over 97% of White criminals victimized White people, 67% of Black criminals also victimized White people. The White population of 200 million committed 87,029 violent assaults on Blacks while the nearly 30 million Blacks committed 787,660 violent attacks on Whites. This averaged out to 1 out of every 2,298 Whites assaulting a Black and 1 out of every 38 Blacks assaulting a White—a rate about 60 times higher
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 18 January 2015 5:20:14 AM
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Careful there Lego, People on this site don't want the truth, and if they get it, they then turn to the racist card. The undeniable fats are,
In Australia the majority of violent crimes are committed by foreigners and, of these crimes involving a firearm, most are illegal, which in plain black and white says that the gun laws have not prevented criminals from sourcing and/or using guns. They have merely resulted in every day Australians being treated like ciminals themselves simply because they wanted to own a gun.

As for Mulslims, racist comment or not, the plain undeniable fct is, they are well imbedded in our societies now and they have one agenda, and that's to one day rule.

Of cause I will be accused of being racist, but there is racism and there is realism, it's just that some prefer to bury their heads in the sand. The plain simp,e fact is, that while every Muslim may not be a terrorist, pretty much every terrorist is a Muslim.

I just hope that one day, hopefully not too far in the future, we have leaders who see this race for what they really are, and ban them from our peace loving nation before it's too late. That's provided it's not already too late.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 18 January 2015 6:54:56 AM
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