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Anti-religious card is poor way to oppose Abbott's uni policy : Comments

By Mike Bird, published 11/12/2014

Theological colleges teach a variety of courses on subjects like ancient Greek, ancient Hebrew, introduction to philosophy, ethics, Reformation history, overseas aid and development....

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runner,
Are you alluding to the increased way this govt is contracting religious organisations to provide welfare services? eg. for refugees; women's shelters, the school chaplaincy program; etc
Posted by McReal, Thursday, 11 December 2014 12:34:14 PM
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oh, my bad; you can't be a school chaplain if you're a youth worker or social worker
Posted by McReal, Thursday, 11 December 2014 12:35:51 PM
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Dear Daffy,

<<Its "creator"-God being the invention/projection of an essentially childish, even infantile mommy-daddy emotional disposition.>>

I could expect better from you.

The vast majority of people cannot grasp or benefit directly from the highest non-dualistic Truth of "Aham Brahmaasmi": Most people ARE infantile and DO need a mommy-daddy emotional relationship with God, perhaps for the rest of their life. This is good, it is not wrong, it is not shameful to be an infant: imagining God as creator has helped to uplift billions throughout the ages, helped them build their character and overcome their accumulated guilt. This planet is a school for everyone on all levels, not just for the most advanced.

Have you even considered how many disciples created a mommy-daddy emotional relationship with Adi Da Samraj, despite the fact that he never asked for it? This is because we have a human nature, which we must first acknowledge before we can eventually transcend it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 11 December 2014 12:46:51 PM
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Seeing that Adi Da was introduced into this topic why not go the whole hog:
A slightly modified quote:

"Both exoteric mommy-daddy religion and secular scientific materialism are magic-paranoid and, altogether, anit-ecstatic traditions, rooted in fear of the magical-power potential of the individual human ego.

Both have, for many centuries now, been actively instructing, or propagandistically coercing humankind to DISBELIEVE - or, without or apart from the actual experience and the exercise of true discriminative intelligence, to dissociate from all modes of association with magical, and metaphysical, and especially Spiritual, and in general ecstasy-producing ideas and activities.

The process of negative indoctrination to which humankind, especially in the Western world, has long been subjected by its sacred and secular "authorities" has, actually, been a magic-paranoid political, social, economic, and cultural effort to enforce a gross "realist", or thoroughly materialist - and, altogether, anti-ecstatic, anti-magical, anti-metaphysical, and anti-Spiritual - model of human life upon all individuals and collectives.

This entire effort to idealize the gross physical ego-"I" has required the universal suppression of the actual innate natural, metaphysical, and ultimately Spiritual and ecstatic potential of the psycho-physical ego.
But, also, and profoundly more importantly, this anti-ecstatic, anti-magical, anti-metaphysical,anti-Spiritual, and altogether gross-materialist-"realism" enterprise has deprived humankind of its necessary access to Intrinsically egoless Truth Itself"

Even while in the case of Christians via their "theological" language games all-the-time mumbling about "Jesus" and the mommy-daddy "creator"-God).
http://www.dabase.org/God-As-Creator.htm

On the mommy-daddy parental-deity:
http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/parental_deity/index.html
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 11 December 2014 1:21:49 PM
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McReal

'Are you alluding to the increased way this govt is contracting religious organisations to provide welfare services? eg. for refugees; women's shelters, the school chaplaincy program; etc'

probably never crossed your mind that much of these welfare organisations have had to be set up largely due to the secular dogmas pushed on our kids from a young age. Funny enough before the secularist trashed the family unit (derived from Christianity) these services were needed far less.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 December 2014 2:07:59 PM
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Taking into account that the IPA has a wish list re what it wants the government to do and that it has links with Access ministries I would not be surprised if it turns out that the same group of people and interests that have pushed the idea of having christian chaplains in schools (and simultaneously marginalizing secular counselors) are behind this move to change the status of christian tertiary institutions so that they can receive government funding. All part of an effort to "re-christianize" Australian society.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 11 December 2014 5:30:52 PM
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