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The very slow march toward gender equality : Comments

By Conrad Liveris, published 14/11/2014

This week Gail Kelly has announced her retirement from leading Westpac, and in doing so the ASX has become that little bit more male.

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Our feminists are getting very close to tripping themselves. They need to be very careful of that little word quota.

Start flinging that one around much, & a whole can of worms is likely to open up & devour them.

Just imagine the result if men demanded equal quotas in university entrances.

Not only would a lot less girls spend a heap of taxpayer money playing undergraduate games for years, it could disseminate whole sections of recently developed university faculties, proving so friendly to the ladies..

With no girls to fill the pews, flower arrangement, tiddlywinks, & cake decoration among others, would no longer be viable courses.

Hell universities may have to go back to actually doing something of value. What a shock to the tenured that would be.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 16 November 2014 12:08:16 PM
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Yes I can see how all those women at Uni must annoy you Hasbeen.

Since women are on equal educational terms now, what with 'being allowed' to attend higher education, they are getting more places at Uni because they are brighter in general....
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 16 November 2014 2:12:58 PM
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I have a lot of trouble finding sympathy for the majority of arguments put forward by the advocates of women’s rights, from paid maternity leave, to the claims for equal pay for equal work.

The simple fact is that, all other things being equal, there are more risks associated with a female employee, especially among a predominantly male workforce. She is more likely to need time off, perhaps to care for elderly parents or sick children, or just to pick children up after school. She'll need more help with anything needing strength - even lawyers occasionally move furniture. It is much more common for a woman to change jobs when a spouse or companion is relocated, than for a man to do so. A male is far less likely than a female to bring charges against the company of discrimination, or perhaps of sexual harassment. And even when the employer is totally innocent, a disgruntled female employee may look on him as having the ‘deepest pockets’, and therefore fair game. And finally, a male employee will never get pregnant.

This is the way it is, not the way it should be. I would like to see policies in place that would counteract the inherent difficulties that women face, policies that would encourage motherhood, encourage female employment, but without biasing small businessmen and others against hiring women. Surely it is obvious that this is only possible by compensation from the government, or the general taxpayer, rather than the individual employer.

Women deserve better - no argument there, but they should get these benefits from the government, not the employer, passing the costs of children, for example, onto society as a whole. Also, it's the pregnant schoolgirls, or any young mother, that we should concern ourselves with, not with Gail Kelly.
Posted by Beaucoupbob, Sunday, 16 November 2014 4:44:07 PM
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The old wage gap myth....again

There is no such thing as a wage gap. Differences in averages have been explained ad nauseam.

Women don't earn as much as men because they don't want to. They want to do safe jobs, close to home which allow them 'flexibility' read: part time so they can drop the kids off to childcare, go to the gym and have coffee with the girls. The fact is most women don't value work like men do. Women value their family and relationships more.

So after women work less, take more sick leave, for less years in the workforce only to retire earlier and live longer, we men have to put up with this constant drivel.

Women have such a good life in the west.

Conrad, you're a good looking young man. You'll get infinitely more respect from women if you act like a man.

What next? Maybe we'll start tearing apart some guy who puts space probes on comets travelling at about 100,000 km/h, 300 million km away because of his choice in t-shirt. Oh wait...
Posted by dane, Sunday, 16 November 2014 11:33:49 PM
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Suse,

'women are brighter in general'

Haaaaaaaaaa.

Whatever you tell yourself. Suse.

Women are more mediocre in general. The rate of male to female geniuses is something like like 8 to 1. It's a well established fact that boys exam scores vary widely while girls are clustered around the middle.

You don't need to read books like The Bell Curve to know this is true. The fact that departments of education never release their data on gender (unless it favours girls) is proof enough.

I guess that just makes modern universities expensive degree factories.

Let's hope the government gets through the deregulation of fees. It's hugely unfair that working men subsidize middle class women's educations.
Posted by dane, Sunday, 16 November 2014 11:51:05 PM
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Many of the schools at Unis are little more than "Finishing" factories for haters without a clue. Girls get more degrees, Ho Hum. Just more Bugger Alls that will never earn enough to pay back the Western Suburb families that actually paid for their "Studies".

Great morality girls, vanity degrees paid off the back of forcing families to work longer hours, wash the kids every other day and taking away any Xmas break.

The only Sexism I see is Privileged White Women Whining".
Posted by McCackie, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 7:54:12 AM
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