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Conservatism and climate science : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 24/6/2014

Given that they have had virtually a monopoly of the mass media, the government and the scientific academies, doesn't that point to a fundamental problem with the 'climate change' message?

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the population has been so dumbed down to believe science teaches that order came from chaos that believing the gw scam is a natural progression. Pigheaded blindness dominates the true believers as fraud, atrocious predictions proving false and demonising one speaking truth is common place. The 'science ' is certainly not settled despite the rhetoric.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 9:50:26 AM
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Don, ' Given that they (the orthodox, who accept the science) have had virtually a monopoly of the mass media,'?? Murdoch media - The Australian and other News corp papers - 65% of print media; Fox News - huge in the USA - not to mention Murdoch's other media - all blatant propagandists for global warming deniers.
Universities - yes, good science is their business. They exist to seek and teach truth, skeptically, that's why they teach the latest understanding of global warming and what must be done about it. They would not last long if they purveyed lies.

And what's this about governments being anti-democratic in taking climate action? No government has banned emission of fossil CO2 and methane, or for that matter smoking. That would be anti-democratic while there's still a significant minority who want to go on doing it.

What governments have done, with the support of a majority of voters, is protect the health of all people by making smokers/ emitters pay a tax/price on their emitting habits to cover the damage they do to communities present and future. I'd say that's democracy in action!

Then what happens? People/ corporations to as they are supposed to - avoid the taxes by switching to cleaner habits.
Posted by Roses1, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 10:07:33 AM
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"Consider the situation.
Bill Moyers written during George W. Bush administration

<<..Never has there been an administration so disciplined in secrecy, so precisely in lockstep in keeping information from the people at large>>

and -- in defiance of the Constitution --

<<..from their representatives in Congress...Never has the powerful media oligopoly ... been so unabashed in reaching like Caesar for still more wealth and power.>>

<<..Never have hand and glove fitted together so comfortably to manipulate free political debate, sow contempt for the idea of government itself, and trivialize the peoples' need to know." -->>

THE SEEDS THEY SOW*

source/article
http://issues.org/30-3/steven/
johan9/post..@,http://issues.org/30-3/steven/#comment-13783,

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Ignorance is no excuse

HERE..try reading the real truth
http://cecaust.com.au/main.asp?sub=global_warming&id=main.html

think..matey..if the warming is true//why all the lies
[mate paid blogging..isnt working well for you/get a real job eh?
we want our money back stolen by enrons energy pricing scam
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html
yet more info for you to blatantly ignore
http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews

oh and dont forget al gore lied 35 times
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/fallacies.html

take ya fingers out of ya eyes and see the truth..really can set you free
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
its the truth getting out your foreign/multinational\tax free dual passport holding treachery,,,being revealed/reviled..,,your masters dread.

Biden: “I Don’t Own a Single Stock or Bond”,
YET..has 11 Investment Funds
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/biden-i-dont-own-a-single-stock-or-bond-has-11-investment-funds/

Can Democrats running in 2016 give the fake class warfare a rest? First Hillary claimed that she left the White House broke (and bought two mansions) and that after making $100 million she’s not truly well off.

Now, never one to let his foot leave his mouth
for too long, Joe Biden had to jump in and cry poverty..LOl
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 10:19:44 AM
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…And OUG

…Just to back you up on scamming of Enron and all it’s cousins: Those little mandated $100 deposits to NSW power companies, that were so insistently collected by them as a precursor to connecting power to your residence, have gone missing!

...The legitimate request for the $100 refund will be met with derision, scoff and an outright LOL. Bad luck buddy, we have it, and you will not be getting it back!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 10:19:59 AM
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OUG:

...Just to clarify the above; the $100 was collected under the guise of a bond...and since when is a bond not repayable? Scam scam scam!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 10:23:40 AM
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<<a politically powerful) minority that disagree with it>>

What about the politically powerful minority who are milking it for all its worth?

The ABC, SBS...ambitious accademics seeking a career booster/funding (I see the latest edition of NewScientist is still publishing cooling towers when it talks about CO2 emissions !)
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 10:23:40 AM
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