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MH370: building better relations with China : Comments

By Peter Coates, published 28/3/2014

These aircraft and ships are of course being used for humanitarian, soft power purposes, but as China is seen as a possible strategic problem their presence seems a little unreal.

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I really wish we had true freedom of speech here in Australia (like the old days)...I'd like to say something truthful about the Chinese!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 28 March 2014 8:55:19 PM
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Parts of another touching report from PerthNowNews, March 28, 2014 at http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/perth-memorial-planned-for-flight-mh370-passengers-ahead-of-families-arrival/story-fniztvnf-1226867948678 :

"A MEMORIAL for the passengers and crew of Flight MH370 is being planned in Perth ahead of the arrival of family members.

...A cross and wreath in memory of MH370 passengers and crew was earlier this week placed on the fence at Royal Australian Air Force’s Pearce Air Base in Bullsbrook, north of Perth.

...On Sunday, the 239 people on-board the Malaysia Airlines jet will be remembered at a service at the Fo Guang Shan Temple in Maylands.

The Buddha’s Light International Association of WA is holding its annual prayer service Qing Ming Dharma, which commemorates deceased relatives."

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 28 March 2014 10:05:50 PM
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It seems "a little unreal" that if we consider China to be a possible military threat, that we would import hundreds of thousands of Chinese nations into Australia as immigrants. That makes about as much sense as the Ukrainians importing Russians into the Crimea, or the Serbs importing Muslims into Kosovo.

The idea that immigrants divest themselves of their national or religious loyalties and identities the instant they set their big toes onto the soil of their new homelands has taken a real hit lately with the "rivers of blood" that flowed down the façade of the British College of Surgeons in London when that bus blew up.

Even the USA has had three spectacular defections of "Chinese/Americans" taking vital defence secrets to China. One involved a Chinese/American in the US ballistic missile program who defected to China. The Chinese "Long MArch" intercontinental ballistic missile is a cloned copy of a US ICBM. Another defection involved a Chinese/American who was involved into nuclear submarine technology who is now helping to build nuclear submarines for China. Even worse, was the defection of a Chinese/American who defected taking a substantial part of the US "stealth technology with him. You guessed it, the Chinese are now well advanced on producing their own "Stealth" aircraft.

Even non military technology like genetic engineering is being stolen by former Chinese nations and being given to China destroying the technological lead which the western world still has over our potential foes.

Thank you. multiculturalism.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 29 March 2014 2:53:07 AM
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"Chinese/Americans" taking vital defence secrets to China.
Lego,
Well, to my mind this would be a "normal" scenario for any National. When you have millennia of culture such loyalty is literally genetic. That is something Americans & especially Australians will not grasp unless it is blown into their faces in a violent way. This is why so many non-aboriginal Australians have that ignorant do-gooder mentality. Racial loyalty is a totally foreign concept to them. Why ? Because non-aboriginal Australians are not a race as such. That's why their ignorance is readily being exploited by racists whenever someone makes a statement riecking of fact & truth. The real racists i.e. those who bleat racism at the slightest whim know this & exploit it. Patriotism, as much as many people want it to be a National thing thing is not, it is racial. That's why Multiculturalism is such an immense failure. Multiculturalism "appears" to work because it's problems are hidden away in enclaves.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 29 March 2014 8:11:08 AM
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Only a tiny proportion of Chinese immigrants or shorter term residents to the US would be involved in technical secret espionage.

The Long March series are civilian booster rockets - though yes booster technology especially those with solid fuel can have military uses - eg ICBM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March_(rocket_family)

China does possess thermonuclear "H-Bomb" warheads that are mysteriously similar to the US W88 thermonuclear warhead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W88#Design_revelations

However the vast majority of China's vast immigrant, student and tourist populations in the US would not be involved in espionage.

Also look at Russians, French, Japanese, South Koreans...?
Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 29 March 2014 8:12:14 AM
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plantagenet,
The "handy' thing for such groups is that they can be fence sitters in a fully, morally aceptable way. When the crap starts hitting the proverbial fan is when the smell becomes apparent as well. People who believe that MC works are fooling themselves to no end, their argument can not be countered until it is too late. One simply can not expect for example the Palestinians to ever tolerate the Isrealis & vise versa or the Chinese with the Tibetans or the New Guineans with the Aboriginines etc etc.
Once the threat of conflict transcends into actual conflict is when the stark realities come to light and, as I said earlier, by that time it is too late.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 29 March 2014 10:41:06 AM
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