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Russia eyes Crimea's oil and gas reserves : Comments

By Nicholas Cunningham, published 19/3/2014

According to Reuters, Crimea may nationalize oil and gas assets within its borders belonging to Ukraine, and sell them off to Russia.

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Crimea has voted to return to Russia. Ukraine as it was is no longer. Get used to it.
And if you think this is blameworthy, dont't blame Russia; blame those neo-turkeys in Washington D.C. They got greedy, rolled the dice and crapped out.
Exon has a deal going with Rosneft in the Russian Arctic. If they play their cards right and tender well, it may soon have another deal going with Skifska in the Black Sea.
What's your problem?
Posted by halduell, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 8:22:49 AM
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Surprise, surprise, Crimea has oil and gas reserves!
And Mr Putin wants them?
Perhaps if the Ukraine had been allowed to develop these resources, they could have finally and fully escaped the Russian yoke?
Could this be history repeating itself, with a power hungry megalomaniac, with a very large capable nuclear powered army at his beck and call, re-righting historical wrongs?
Yeah right!
And assuring the world, he has no ambitions for further expansions!
Yeah right!
I mean, a gentle and kind Putin has improved the freedoms and inherent rights of all the Russian Peoples, since he changed the constitution, to allow himself, to take on the power of a virtual Czar!
Yeah right!
People are now completely free to speak their minds, and even critique him, with complete impunity!
Yeah right!
One notes, he gave his assurance from the Czarist Palace to a completely hoodwinked admiring crowd!
And doesn't that have a very familiar historical ring?
Where ethnic minorities and HOMOSEXUALS, became the most popular scapegoats, and cover for the worst excesses of a virtual gang of power hungry, extremely intolerant, mass murdering criminals?
Sieg hiel!
Today Crimea, tomorrow the world, just a little piece at a time?
Well, China seems to have been getting away with just that, for decades?
Even as a world promised endless, but not forthcoming reprisals, or simply turned their collective cowardly backs? Jawol?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 12:13:47 PM
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First the Ukraine, then the Baltic States?

Then all of the previous Soviet Republics one by
one that the regime occupied for decades and still
sees as their own.

The West will
again turn a blind eye and give tacit permission
for the Soviet Regime to continue to expand its
draconian system.

Poor Ukraine. Nobody believed the artificial Ukrainian
Famine of 1932-33, nobody believed the wholesale
destruction of the Russian peasantry, and later of the
peasantry and intelligensia in the occupied territories as well.
The world is currently buying what Mr Putin and the
Kremlin is selling and the same shroud of silence from
the West that existed in the past will again fall and
suppression (and murder) will again be raised to a science.

We're really big on freedom in the West - as long as
it doesn't affect our own.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 3:54:12 PM
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What's wrong with this article is that Russia has heaps of oil and gas already - increasingly in the warming Arctic.

Crimea will be a net money loser for Russia but Crimea's strategic value (Russia's only ice-free naval base) is great and the reason Russia took it over.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 3:59:46 PM
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Think Julia Bishop needs to watch her mouth in the media...and be clear she's talking on he behalf and not as foreign minister for all us Australians...when imposing sanctions against Russia and critiquing Crimean Referundum...
We are physically in Asian sphere of influence...if you holding onto our European roots then this is a good time to move back to Europe...otherwise start thinking Asian and behave Asian...
We are at the time of diminishing European power and influence and rise of Asian...times come to choose our loyalties...Russia is more Asian than European...
So Julia don't doom our children's future by acting like Australia is an European interest satellite in Asian region...and be true to your loyalties always...decide, are you European in Asia or euroasian in Asia?...
sam
Posted by Sam said, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 7:37:00 PM
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Dear Sam,

We have values and principles that are central to
our country remaining a stable, prosperous and
peaceful community. They provide the common
reference points for our free and democratic society.

While shared to some extent by all liberal democracies
these values and principles have been adapted to our
country's unique setting, moulded and modernised through
waves of settlement by people from all over the world.

These values and principles reflect strong influences on
this country's history and culture. These include
Judeo-Christian ethics, a British political heritage and
the spirit of European enlightenment. Distinct Irish and
non-conformist attitudes and sentiments have also
been important.

Of course the values and principles that we in this
country share should not be seen as a quest for conformity
or a common set of beliefs.

On the contrary, respect for the free-thinking individual
and the right to be different are the foundations of this
country's democracy.

You should therefore understand that what you're suggesting
is not really going to work. You don't seem to understand
that this country's core values have helped to create
a society that is stable yet dynamic cohesive yet
diverse. These values define and symbolise why so many
people want to become Australians.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 10:24:04 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Sam,

BTW - just to let you know - the seat of Russian
government is in Europe not in Asia. The part of
Russia that you must be getting confused with and
refer to as Asia - consists of Russian-occupied
former territories - (constituting mainly Siberia) that
today want to break away from Russia.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 10:34:07 PM
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Foxy your point about our origin is taken and valued...thats not the point being made...point is Australia is reaching a crossroad...nothing stays the same...and we as a common group need to make a choice where our primary loyalty lies...it is unfortunate, but were there...
If a little elaboration to clarify...we are a product of 18th century colonization rampage of Europe which had unilateral military power then...and no country of the world or people were spared...
Now there is no such power distinction...if anything if the Asian block unify which is looking unavoidable by the way Europe and US via their UN are xarrying on...it's forcing the issue...
It'll be a sad day for Australia if we act and viewed as an Europan outpost in Australia...we as Australians and our children will lose our security and harmony and future...as I predict...and I personally don't think that's worth for what Eurohope I explained myself better here...
sam
Posted by Sam said, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 11:49:17 PM
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So that asian block would include China, Japan, and South Korea as the largest economic blocks? They all get along great don't they.

I predict your prediction is wrong.
Posted by Stezza, Thursday, 20 March 2014 3:42:08 AM
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Stezza...you are not seeing with clear eyes...the destabilization is seen as the premeditated hyperdriven work of Europe through US...'divide and rule' old colonial motto...ya?
sam
Posted by Sam said, Thursday, 20 March 2014 8:56:17 AM
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No you are seeing what you want to see. Go talk to some Chinese, Japanese or Koreans and get their opinions. There is a lot of history and hatred. Not everything can be blamed on the west, even though some try bloody hard.
Posted by Stezza, Thursday, 20 March 2014 9:21:06 AM
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Dear Sam,

I understand the point that you are trying to make.
However I don't see things in the same way that
you do. However I do appreciate very much the
civility of your response to me. You've given
me something to think about. Thank You.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 20 March 2014 10:30:20 AM
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Stezza said 'not everything can be blamed on the west'...unfortunately all road direct and indirect still head to the west...the current financial included here...by some 'magic' bulk of hard hard manufacturing done in Asia currently...bulk of profits in Europe\US...money the latest colonial tool...Europs notorious past will always be the standard they will be judged against...however sweet and nice and hop and skip in all pink they do now...
End of the day time will tell...so let's see how things plan out...I'm expecting the 'New-World-Order' cake to be peddled by Europe using all it's satellites soon...as the new age of peace and harmony...but expecting Asia to see it for what it is...another false face of self-superiority-queens(read as Europe) delusion in their own ability to deceive and control thing to their sole benefit that's continuing...and don't think Asia will buy another west organized plan that affects them anymore...
sam
Ps~think the latest west export of feminism and ursurping governing power is the last straw...camels back broken
Posted by Sam said, Thursday, 20 March 2014 10:39:50 AM
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Quote "According to Reuters, Crimea may nationalize oil and gas assets within its borders belonging to Ukraine, and sell them off to Russia."

All about oil sounds like what the US did in Iraq and other countries.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 20 March 2014 11:54:49 PM
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What is the fuss about? American oil companies supplied fuel to Hitler's tanks, so profits will continue to flow whatever the source.
Posted by Leslie, Friday, 21 March 2014 12:34:35 PM
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And Russian authorities killed 30 million of their own people

- including 10 million Ukrainians

- then placed all the blame on Stalin

- after he was safely dead that is

So what's all the fuss about living under Russian rule about?
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 21 March 2014 4:42:17 PM
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The central principle of a civilised world, one that millions upon millions died for not all that long ago, is LIBERTY, including the right of peoples to self-determination. Crimea was gifted to the Ukraine by the butcher Nikita Khrushchov. The people were never asked.

And now, for reasons amateur and professional geostrategists speculate over and which do not include the liberty of people to determine their own political future, bang, this opportunity lands in the Crimean people's lap. A referendum of the whole population. A decision through the ballot box. Anyone committed to liberty would be over the moon.

But not the self-styled "international community" (actually the elites who rule the international community). They issue a howl of rage and claw for their gun. And they find they're outgunned!

Now Vlad Putrid, the butcher of captive Chechnya, is no friend of liberty. So why did he do it? My guess is that the Russians are funny about having NATO and an unelected horde of slavering Nazi savages thrust slap bang against their border. When the Wall came down there were specific undertakings, against German Chancellor Kohl’s urging, not to revitalise the Axis and advance NATO to the edge of Russia. The Russians are showing they’ve kept their powder dry.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 23 March 2014 11:05:12 AM
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Sam,
like many others you were misled by your school as most have
Mercadors projection world maps on their walls.
The world is nothing like that, Europe is closer to Asia than Australia is to Asia.
BTW Indonesia & the Philippines are not in Asia.

Russia is the world's largest producer of crude oil.
However, when oil production peaked in late 1980s the economy
collapsed and communism with it. However since then the oligarchs cranked
up the oil business and are now producing about 10.5 Mbd.
However a serious problem is on the horizon and the second peak is looming.
It is probably the desire to keep Russia's grip on Europe's energy
that has prompted the seizure of the Crimea.

Short of engaging in an oil war there is not much that can be done about it.
The current Russian oligarchs learnt their lessons well from the
communists as in the Referendum there was no option to stay with Ukraine, it was Hobson's choice.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 24 March 2014 5:29:51 PM
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