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Andrew Bolt simply does not understand Marxism : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 24/2/2014

In response to Andrew: You're entitled to your opinion as a conservative to oppose Marxism, or leftism in general. But get your facts straight.

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“Fascism is for liberty. And for the only liberty which can be real thin, the liberty of the State and of the indivdual within the State, Therefore, for the Fascist, everything is in the State, and nothing human or spiritual exists, much less has value, outside the State. Fascism... the synthesis and unity of all values, interprets, develops and gives strength to the whole life of the people."
Benito Mussolini

And that’s what you and Tristan believe, isn’t it? For example, in your defence of protectionism, you always refer to "we". By this of course you identify *society* with *the State*. Thus any human being outside the State is regarded as a non-person, a sub-human, who has no claim to be part of human society worth considering.

But if you don't agree with the totalitarian ideology of the national socialists, then what are your answers to my numbered questions above?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Monday, 24 February 2014 11:09:20 AM
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one thing is for certain is that the vast majority of violent protests in this country comes from those who have an allegiance to marxism. You know them by their fruits. They are the most intolerant people along with some of the islamist in this country. The national broadcasters are stacked with their adherents.
Posted by runner, Monday, 24 February 2014 11:10:00 AM
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I was pretty anti-communist at university in my general support of liberalism, but would rather read Marx any day over Andrew Bolt.

No brainer that one
Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 24 February 2014 11:11:45 AM
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Yebiga
See post above to Tristan. Your belief The Nazis were right wing is simply that you have swallowed the greatest propaganda lie of the 20th century.
The only country to sign a pact with Hitler was USSR. The onky difference between Hitler and Stalin was that Stalin claimed to be an international socialist and wanted the whole world to be dominated by his International Socalism. Hitler was an avowed National Socialist who was the only man to ever conquer Europe and who wanted to conquer the world. His aim was to impose his National Socialism.

Mate Mouseallini was simply one of those useful idiots, too.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 24 February 2014 11:12:46 AM
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Chris

Tongue in cheek I have to ask was the no brainer a result of or a prequisite to reading Marx?

Cheers no offence intended only humour.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 24 February 2014 11:19:01 AM
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I am already very familiar with NAZI economic policy. In practice, National Socialism was and is extreme right wing economics. For those who would have that the NAZIs were socialists inspired by Marx well your in between a rock and hard place. NAZI germany's prewar economy arose from being the worlds basket case in 1933 to a super power by 1938. It was the first country and maybe the only country to get itself out of the global depression.

So much so that, it inspired Roosevelt's New Deal which helped the US out of its Depression. But what worked in Germany never quite worked as well anywhere else. Only the war effort itself helped the US recover. But that is a discussion for another time.

The indisputable distinction is that the NAZIs did not nationalise big business but rather partnered with them, not dissimilar to the post war Japanese government who works to assist its biggest businesses. No more really need be said to rebut this nonsense. Whereas, the USSR, China, Cuba and all the communist experiments all nationalised ownership of industry.

When analyzing historical events it is crucial to understand the times. 1933 Europe is in the midst of a depression, inflation is rampant and to the masses banks and big industry has failed them. In this environment every political party starts talking like a socialist. Even in America, Roosvelt's socialist new deal was necessary to appease the fears of the masses.

Thus to equate Fascism with Marxism or Communism is insanc
Posted by YEBIGA, Monday, 24 February 2014 11:22:30 AM
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