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Palestine: collective amnesia spells collective disaster : Comments

By David Singer, published 6/2/2014

Witnesses were available in abundance, but that hasn't stopped the US reneging on its promise.

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interesting within minutes of posting reply to you
http://www.jewwatch.com/

has gone off line..[you have too much control
if you can push the buttons push the damm thing

we are over it
you know you can do as you chose..we know it
but its clear you CANT..revealed by ya own works
its time some were jailed for treason..get it david?

god wouldnt be pleased..but if your not with god..your working with satan

its that simplE..if your not serving mankind..your serving satanists

jew watch will be up again shortly
zionists will get 'thIEr just deserts..[re-ward]
you too few arnt running things..its time you were told
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 8:39:00 AM
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But those Arab riots and their dates are entirely consistent with my points. They were against Zionism.. The riots are indicative of the Palestinians becoming cognisant of Zionist intention. It does you position no good raising this and only confirms the treachery executed on the Palestinians.

Here we go - " enough with the generalised Jew hatred"
Let me be perfectly clear, i hate judaism, christianity and islam in equal measure. In fact i have a disdain for organised religion of any variety. But this has not been a discussion about religion. It is a political topic. Please find a new trick, the anti- Semitic charge has lost it lustre.

And as we know David, to a Zionist the Old Testament is not a religious matter, it is the Deed to a Title of land. Zionism is the usurpation of judaism and the Old Testament for the purpose of making a property claim - a claim ordained by god no less.

. I am sick of the sustained mendacity which embroils the entire western world in fighting over this desolate and cursed land. The tragic irony that a highly educated jewish people have fallen for this anarchronistic nationalism. That here on the 21 st century we have this religious conflict without any possible end.

I can't work out whether Israel plays the USA for a fool and thus empowering Zionism. Or whether, the US plays Zionism for a fool and thus enabling aggressive US adventures in the Middle East to appropriate oil reserves.

Either way, a pox on all of you. The harm caused by this endless barbarism is beyond measure. If it were geographically contained that would be one thing. But its not, the Zionist narrative has infiltrated our media our education system and our political system. The wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, the sabre rattling toward Iran. The entire world caught in the vortex of this barbaric, deformed nonsense of hate.

My imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend, and when all you religious people die, my imaginary friend is sending you all to hell. Hahahaha.
Posted by YEBIGA, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 9:20:02 AM
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Dear Yebiga,

You are blaming innocent religion for someone else's crimes.

Judaism was never a religion, but a national movement which tactically invented its distorted image of god and what are presumably his commandments, shaped in every detail in order to support the Jewish nation. In Judaism, God is only good so long as He helps the nation - if He doesn't, then the Rabbis gave themselves a back-door to change the rules, demonstrating that they were never truly interested in God's instructions in the first place. Thus Judaism is a disgusting abuse of religion, rather than a religion.

The fact that some later individual Jews, such as Jesus and some of the Hasidic movement, turned against the tide by taking God seriously and aspects of Judaism as a spiritual discipline, is the exception rather than the rule. What you call 'Zionism' is nothing but the original spirit of Judaism.

You may be interested in the recent spate of legislation by Israel's extremist "Yisrael Betenu" party to prohibit expressions of Jewish religiosity that are not done via the official central Rabbinate. The performance of a private Jewish wedding, for example, with a Rabbi that is unauthorised by the state will become a criminal offence and so would any hint by shop and restaurant owners, even verbally, that their food is kosher - unless they are certified by the central Rabbinate: what may be eaten by a Jew without sin is thus no longer a decree of God, but of the Rabbis in power.

Thus the Middle-East conflict was never a religious one, but the usual political conflict that we see elsewhere, only covered in false religious rhetoric.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 10:48:39 AM
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To #one under god

I randomly looked at one of your many references:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/KILLINGJESUSFAMILY.php

It stated:

"In the dying days of the Bush administration, and a week before Israel launched an aerial bombing campaign, followed by a land invasion of the Gaza Strip, the U.S. military shipped 989 containers of munitions to Israel.

Each container was 20-feet long with a total estimated net weight of 14,000 tonnes. The shipment reportedly reached Israel last month at Ashod, 40 kiometres north of Gaza. The huge arsenal of munitions will replenish those expended in the Gaza War.

According to Amnesty International in the UK, the shipment included white phosphorous."

The following paragraphs from the original report were omitted:

"The international organization says 300 of the containers had been unloaded at Ashod in March by a German cargo ship, Wehr Elb.

“We are sure that the consignment contained arms and munitions.” We have a strong suspicion that it contained white phosphorous which has been used against civilians in Gaza,” Brian Wood, head of Arms Control Campaign at Amnesty International in London said late this week.

“The cargo ship had been chartered and controlled by US Military Sealift Command. It left the USA for Israel on December 20, one week before the start of Israeli attacks on Gaza. The vessel was carrying 989 containers of munitions, each of them 20-feet long with a total estimated net weight of 14,000 tonnes,” he said.

“The world community including the Palestinians should be able to know where the remaining 680 containers on board the Wehr Elbe have gone and why the US is not transparent about the final destination of the dangerous cargo.

“A Pentagon spokesperson confirmed to Amnesty International that “the unloading of the entire US munitions shipment was successfully completed at Ashdod on March 22,” Wood pointed out.

The spokesperson had said the shipment was destined for a US pre-positioned munitions stockpile in Israel, he said. Under a US-Israel agreement, munitions from this stockpile may be transferred for Israeli use if necessary."

That was enough for me.

Swallow half baked stories if you will.

I won't.
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 11:30:36 AM
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Yuyutsu
What organised religion is good? Once any organisation places itself between an individual and his her relationship with the divine, we always without fail see the proliferation of the worst crimes and excesses. Whatever good there was is transfigured into an abomination.

When that organised religion then enjoins itself with patriotic nationalism, we have the exponential proliferation of two evils. We have in history seen the devastation caused by this two headed beast time after time. Not just war, but the worst kind of barbarity and excess.

However, good your intent, to defend either head of this abomination is to lend support and fuel to the spiral of barbarism which always must follow. This lesson is writ large in the blood, suffering and torture of countless souls throughout humanity's history.

The literature which chronicles this lesson is readily accessible. The wisdom from these chronicles bares no equivocation. There is no reading between lines, no subtle metaphors. It is a sledgehammer, a bludgeon, it screams at you: organised religion and patriotism is a mental illness.

An individual suffering from either religious ardour or patriotism ceases to be an individual and is instead a drone like slave of hatred and bigotry. Their thoughts are no longer their own. They become rabid dogs to be directed by their owners to commit any crime and still find justification.

Is that not precisely what David is doing here, justifying what cannot be justified except by religion and patriotism?
Posted by YEBIGA, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:07:11 PM
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very quick with your reply..david..[one snoW storm doth not a winter make[you know how zion loves disinfo..so you poison one well..your wORKS STAND EXPOSED.

GO DESTROY PALISTEIN IF YOU DARE
your slow killing them with starvation/poisend water..radioactive munitions gass warfare phosphor and OTHER inHUMANE..perversions..

its indefensible oppression..mate..get that right.
two state is a perversion../slave INCARCERATED-STATE/MASTER RACE STATE*
4 TH REICHE..

zieg heil..

HOW MANY ABORTED BABies CHILD SACRIFICE TO ZION..DIE TODAY..?
how many your weapons OF MASS DESTRACTION will still/KILL kids TOMORROW?

REPENT..SEE your serving death/war /murder/mayhem.
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:09:56 PM
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