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Australia's future: slow growth, falling terms of trade, lower per capita incomes? : Comments

By Geoff Carmody, published 13/12/2013

Some economists recently warned Australian real incomes will fall, but they've been doing this for the last two years already.

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What is it with economists, almost to a man/woman, they pronounce belief in global warming.

Is it that they are too dumb to do the math to understand the fraud?

Do they actually believe the fraud?

Is it that there is a buck in it for them?

Or is it lots of nice government consultancies advising them how to use the fraud to get a buck out of us?

What ever it is, the only people more likely to pronounce a belief in Global Warming are those directly riding the gravy train.

It is a pity, because the article, which talks sense in almost every other way, is degraded with the Global Warming bit of fluff.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 13 December 2013 2:42:27 PM
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This Is a population issue.

In fact, almost all of Oz's current issues are to do with overpopulation primarily from immigration. Some utilities such as power are noting rises in domestic power costs due fully to "Poles & wires costs" which without immigration would not be necessary. Immigration only benefits greed bound corporations, unconscionable supermarket monopolies and power hungry tin pot Politicians who are so stupid they can't tell the difference between QUALITY and quantity.

The story is is fall in employment in mining in WA which is due to new technology so WHY the writer mentions workplace productivity is a Mystery. We have far too many people on the dole - half of them can't even speak English (ignore the ABS one hour per week criterion for being employed). Those who have been pushed out because they are not politically or Family aligned have to fight foreign dole professionals for Government handouts of pocket money. If you roll em all together its about one million people who do bugger all because there is not enough work for the numbers of people in Australia today let alone a Political "Wet Dream" BIG Australia which will resemble "1984" rather than a brave, free thinking Nation.

Per capita figures can be curious as they don't tell you much about distribution of wealth. Particularly wealth gained by using immigration as a multiplier tool for political Power and Market share opportunities for just a handful of Families in this unlucky HIJACKED country.
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 13 December 2013 4:07:19 PM
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Ludwig has a good point about immigration. However I would expect that the current rates would be wound down to minimise the rise in unemployment.

There is, however a simple five word method of solving the immigration question permanently.

Bring back the Dictation Test.
Posted by plerdsus, Friday, 13 December 2013 4:56:20 PM
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Population has and always will be a beat up. It's an easy fix for the blame squad. Keep kicking it down the social structure until you find the newly arrived immigrants, who, from their luxurious houses are running a secret command economy behind our backs. Get real. These are the poorest of the poor. Migrants have such buying power they are swamping consumer market. Where do you get this Enoch Powell tripe from?

You're sitting pretty with Kelvin Thomson who wants to slash Australia's annual temporary and permanent immigrant intake of about 400,000 people - including 253,000 international students - to 70,000 across Australia.

According to the Department of Immigration and Citizenship’s Continuous Survey of Australia’s Migrants, at the six-month stage of settlement, the unemployment rate for skilled migrants was 5 per cent. Six months later the unemployment rate for this group had fallen to less than half of this rate.

You and Ludwig would slash our $15 billion international student market, kick out the Kiwis and recreate the high tariff and Fortress Australia mentality of the post war era. Welcome to the Great Leap Back. That's why the anti-pops polled 9000 votes NATIONALLY.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Friday, 13 December 2013 5:16:47 PM
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All successful nations have a Fortress mentality. That's why they have armed forces.

To cite a Fortress mentality as some kind of evil is like advocating screen doors on a submarine.

Some people need to wake up and smell reality.

Of the 7.3 billion people on this planet, about 5 billion would love to come here. Choosing the poorest or the thievingest illegals hardly helps Fortress Australia maintain its vitality, ingenuity and integrity. And THIS is why Holden, Quantas and all other Fortress Dollar corporations are leaving Australia.

And just wait... there's a lot more bad news to come.

Our politicians are like big spoilt babies... they DON'T HAVE A CLUE!

Meanwhile n'ere do wells tell us to be ashamed if we desist this horrid immigration disrespect for our national sovereignty.
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 13 December 2013 5:55:37 PM
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Good Lucy convincing many on this site, because they still think we are in great shape.

Low unemployment, the envy of the civilized word are just two examples of what they preach.

Sure, we have low unemployment, provided you calculate being employed as working JUST ONE HOUR PER WEEK.

And yes, we are the envy of the world, but that only makes us better than the rest, it doesn't make us good, and let's face it, the competition is not very strong.

Chances are in the next three years or so, we will have no car industry, no Qantas and next to no manufacturing.

In fact, we will have the highest paid, under employed in the world.

Hardly what I would describe as a trophy worthy of bragging about.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 14 December 2013 10:21:42 AM
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