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The Liberals should show respect to potential allies : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 2/10/2013

The Liberals do not own the word 'liberal' and need the goodwill of minor parties in the Senate.

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If the Liberal Party, were in any way, a bona fide liberal organization, instead of dyed in the wool conservatives, they might have a right to complain or protest!?
The real misnomer here, is the liberal party, which is anything but!?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 5:52:51 PM
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Ah yes JKJ, how right you are about socialism!
No wonder all those socialist republics in Scandinavia, are faring so badly in comparison to capitalist countries like the US or AUSTRALIA!?
More tea anyone; and isn't this a nice party?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 6:02:00 PM
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Rhrosty
You don't define what you mean or offer any evidence.

But if you're suggesting that the more socialist and the less free a society is, the more wealthy it is, you're simply wrong. If it was true, full communism would produce the most productive society. And if you're not going to defend that proposition, you need to identify the rational principle by which you assert that partial socialism magically makes a society richer. Expedience won't do, otherwise you're back to your original problem. You need to identify the principle. Go ahead.

Wealth doesn't come from restricting productive activity, and it doesn't matter how many socialists think - or rather emote - that it does.

BTW Denmark ranks higher than the USA in the Index of Economic Freedom - it's more capitalist than the USA, not less.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 6:33:50 PM
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You'd have nothing to bitch about if you'd just taken a few minutes to brainstorm a non-generic name.

As a party opposed to wasteful taxing/spending, I see you're quite happy to pocket your donkey vote-enhanced public funding windfall.
Hypocrites.

Rhrosty, "Socialist" Scandanavia has managed to give the world sweet songs, safe cars and simple furniture.
The doors of Valhalla have rusted shut.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 3 October 2013 3:21:07 AM
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Shockadelic, the LDP just won a Senate seat. In case you haven't noticed, it's you and the major parties who are bitching, not them.

As for their receiving the funding that the major parties brought in, I think it’s the LDP that decides their policies, not you. The LDP's policy is to abolish it, but obviously according to you, no-one else has a right to equal treatment under the laws. People are just chattels to be forced to pay for the Laborals propaganda?

And how do you get your perverted view that people who don’t vote for the Laborals can be presumed not to know what they’re doing? Funny I don’t recall you ever complaining about the Laborals benefitting from the donkey vote in every other election - as if you know how much it is!

Yours is the “the Laborals are the font of all wisdom, no-one else has any rights" school of thought: pathetic really.

With double standards like yours, you should move to Scandinavia
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 3 October 2013 1:59:49 PM
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Jardine K. Jardine, wow, that massive wave of misconceptions gave me motion sickness!

I am no fan of the "Laborals".
I would prefer nobody vote for them (especially first preference, as that's what funding is based on. Keep the "bastards" hungry.)
Number everyone else first, kids. (Everyone, even the Stupid Party I Hate Sooooo Much!)

But I am also no fan of hypocrites.

This has nothing to with "equal treatment under the laws".
Public funding is *optional*. You don't have to register for it.

How can the LDP look people in the eye and say they want to abolish public funding, then register for it and happily bank the cash?
That act alone makes them lose credibility.

If they had genuine community support, they wouldn't need it.
(and yes, that goes for the Laborals too. I myself want public funding abolished.)

The author was bitching, about the difficulty they had registering the name, a problem that would never have existed if they'd just come up with something *original*.

"And how do you get your perverted view that people who don’t vote for the Laborals can be presumed not to know what they’re doing?"

I didn't invent the idea of a "donkey vote".
It is a commonly acknowledged phenomenon (I wonder why they do it though, as you could simply leave it blank. Maybe they think it's "compulsory to vote" as they've been misleadingly told a million times).

People doing this are not voting *for* the LDP, yet the LDP still claim success (votes up X%!) and collect the cash without blushing.

"With double standards like yours, you should move to Scandinavia"
With distorted knee-jerk presumptions like yours, you should join the Laborals.
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 4 October 2013 3:10:45 AM
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