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Australia is growing old : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 3/9/2013

There is no bearded man with a board around his neck walking around proclaiming 'Repent! The End is Nigh', but perhaps there should be.

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"Explicit in such arguments which are promoted by right-wing religionists and nationalists all over the world is the presumption that the human population can and must keep on increasing for forever and a day.
Unfortunately this is impossible on a finite planet. And no amount of clever technological fixes will alter the fact that crunch time will inevitably come - or the planetary eco-systems (that is Gaia) will bite back with a horrific vengeance."

The prophets of doom have been promoting such dogma for many decades. There is no justification for arguing that we have reached the limit for population growth.
Posted by Raycom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:01:22 PM
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Babbette,

Our birthrate is double our deathrate ( ABS data ).

We will grow by an extra 3 million people, just from fertility alone, over the next 30 years.

It only takes 10-15 minutes every 3 years ,to use the preferential system and number on the Senate ballot paper the 110 candidates below the line .
Not a big ask compared to having half one's face or ovaries blown-off in Afghanistan.

By doing this , you can send the only message to the major parties, that they respect .

Every major problem we face from housing, university funding, child neglect, jails, environment, manufacturing collapse, casualization of the workforce, selling public assets, massive public/private borrowings, traffic chaos, growing poverty, social security blow-outs.....(.very happy to dialogue the back stories on all this)...is made catastrophically worse by one design blunder..................POPULATION GROWTH .

By preferencing the Stable Population Party first, then your major party second ( after that, just do the numbering because it won't matter ), we have a chance to turn the place around.

The positive message is that we have designed the mess in, so we can design it out .

Very best Babette ,

Ralph
Posted by Ralph Bennett, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:06:18 PM
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A "prophet of doom" who really knew what He was talking about.
Which is to say, because he was Consciously Alive as everyone and everything and all of space-time (past, present and future) He could quite literally see where the current (and past) UNCONSCIOUS patterns of human activity were leading humankind and Earthkind.
http://www.dabase.org/not2p1.htm
http://www.beezone.com/news.html
http://www.ispeace723.org/adi-da-world-work \
http://sacredcamelgardens.com/wordpress/reality-humanity
On the hell-deep reservoir of fear sorrow and anger which is patterning our normal dreadful sanity - including dreadfully sane religionists such as Raycom
http://spiralledlight.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/4068
http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/peace_law/index.html
The last reference was written in response to the Kosovo crisis at the request of an on-the-ground high ranking UNHCR diplomat. It was reworked in response to September 11.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 9:00:58 AM
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Daffy Duck "Explicit in such arguments which are promoted by right-wing religionists and nationalists all over the world is the presumption that the human population can and must keep on increasing for forever and a day.Unfortunately this is impossible on a finite planet. And no amount of clever technological fixes will alter the fact that crunch time will inevitably come - or the planetary eco-systems (that is Gaia) will bite back with a horrific vengeance."

I like reading what "progressives" write for the sheer fact that they always end up showing the utter hatred for human beings they have beneath all their slogans of 'equality" and "egalitarianism"
Posted by Aristocrat, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:05:10 PM
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Ralph Bennett
While our current natural growth is approx 150k pa, our actual deaths double over the next few decades as the boomers become a death bust and our natural growth drop to zero or even negative.

Sorry if the facts get in the way of your narrative.
Posted by dempografix, Friday, 20 September 2013 4:06:55 PM
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