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The Precautionary Principle bites the dust : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 23/8/2013

Forget the Precautionary Principle, action is to be preferred to inertia. Welcome to the Proactionary Principle.

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We need to replace the sensible precautionary principle with a proactive one!
Why? Well additional reliable data/evidence, (melting of the formerly thaw proof frozen tundra and ocean acidification which has literally doubled in just the last sixteen years etc/etc) informs us we should do so, or face a century that could end with a 5C increase in ambient temperatures.
The last time we had a temperature rise of that order of magnitude, nearly all life on planet earth was eliminated!
What's proactive?
Well companion algae farming, beside coal fired power stations, to absorb all the carbon they produce, plus create an additional income source.
[Objectors? You don't like additional income or coal fired power which no longer sends tons of carbon skywards?]
It's utilizing our waste to create endlessly sustainable and very low cost energy, instead of pumping energy into it to get rid of it, out into the marine environment, where it does nothing but harm.
It's replacing old coal fired power stations with cheaper than coal thorium.
It's replacing fire land management, with much more effective and much more profitable cell grazing!
Simply put, all of the above will quite massively improve our economic performance and productive capacity, and simply shouldn't be feared or bagged.
Unless of course, you are among a recalcitrant few who earn a more than comfortable living/income from the current status quo?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 24 August 2013 10:38:12 AM
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John Howard struck a chord with his “WE decide who comes into our country” (a privilege that was never extended to native Australians). But if we shifted from misrepresentative government (we elect them, they buy them) to democracy then the communities using Australia’s aquifers would be empowered to say “WE decide what is put into our water.”

It’s fine for Shadow Minister to say the first poisons to be put into the water have been replaced with other poisons, maybe milder and maybe not, but the democratic solution is for those who have to use the water to decide, not foreign investors. If the first chemicals to be put in the water were, as Shadow Minister writes, more poisonous than the replacement, were the landholders asked whether they wanted the stuff or not – and their decision respected? Were there town hall meetings where independent scientists were present to advise, on the acceptability of the alternative poisons (or none) before a binding vote was taken or (better) referendum held?

The sirs deciding for the plebs in the interest of the sirs is called social engineering.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 24 August 2013 3:19:20 PM
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The "Precautionary Principle" is alive and well, generally it is called a "Cost Benefit Analysis", you know the thing that was never done with NBN's FTTH. Similarly there was some analysis before the Pink Batts fiasco, the Bureaucrats warned but were ignored, much the same as the Labor's murderous high-seas, economic immigrant program. It does not encompass placing infinite costs on the currently fashionable Lefty bęte noire, but intelligent evaluation.
Why is it that the most "Nobel" of Lefty endeavors always result in working-class deaths and harm? Answering myself (ŕ la Rudd), because Lefties seldom have had a real job.
Posted by McCackie, Sunday, 25 August 2013 11:24:00 AM
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http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-four-destroyers-positioned-near-syria-assad-warns-u-s-not-to-intervene-saying-such-a-move-would-set-the-middle-east-ablaze/

The Precautionary Principle bites the dust
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/24/syria-cameron-obama-intervention

Did the West Gas Thousands to Rescue Failed Syrian War?

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/defeated-nato-dangerously-desperate-in.html

As far back as 2007, it was a documented fact that the West, including the United States and its allies Saudi Arabia and Israel, conspired to use terrorists drawn from the ranks of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda in an attempt to overthrow the governments of Iran and Syria...
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/us-positions-for-attack-on-syria.html

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/us-moving-towards-war-on-syria/62519/

http://syria360.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/urgent-facts-about-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-damascus/

The UN is stalling for time so that evidence can be removed and/or planted at the scene to bring it in line with the official story.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/23/un_blocking_its_own_chemical_weapons_investigation_into_syria

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-24/putin-responds-syria-escalation-may-reinforce-naval-grouping-mediterranean-following

I have to wonder: just how malleable might these UN chemical weapons inspectors be to US/Israeli/UK pressure?!?

What juicy tidbits from their personal lives has the US's NSA harvested, in advance of just such a situation?!?

Only time will tell: but this group is under a lot of pressure to do their job very quickly: in a process like this, quick and thorough are real adversaries.

And what happens if the findings are not to the US/UK/Israeli governments' liking?!
http://presstv.com/detail/2013/08/24/320330/syria-will-let-un-probe-chem-attack/

Anti-Syria chemical plot
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/08/41442-anti-syria-chemical-plot/
There is No question what's going on in Syria. It's so clear cut. The so-called opposition are nothing more than invading "mercenaries" backed by western proxies on a mission to destroy Syria.

The so-called progressives that say otherwise have a lot to answer for. Similar to what happened many times before. The mass gassing incident may turn out to be a modern day Gulf of Tonkin incident.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-forces-used-chemical-weapons-during-assault-on-city-of-fallujah-514433.html

the decision to attack has already been made,
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNITED_STATES_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-08-24-07-37-32

and that this alleged approach of "waiting until all the facts are assessed" is just bovine excrement window-dressing for an upcoming strike
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/171234#.Uhjy638piHs

http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 25 August 2013 7:38:39 PM
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Shadow, most people get stirred up about CSG because they do not
understand how it is different to shale oil and gas.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 25 August 2013 9:51:26 PM
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Dear McCackie,

What results in working-class deaths and harm
is the result of greed by "cowboy" contractors
who take shortcuts and don't follow building regulations
or apply for permits.

Fortunately these people are a minority because
legitimate businesses do follow the correct
procedures otherwise there would be many more deaths.

It's accepted practice by professionals, ( architects
and engineers and therefore politicans) to accept the
fact that those regulations and procedures will be
followed by registered contractors. Unfortunately
when there's the smell of money, cowboy contractors
will always appear.

If you really believe that "Lefties seldom have
a real job," then one can only assume that you don't
really know very many hard-working, workers.
Do you by any chance own a small business?
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 25 August 2013 10:12:06 PM
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