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Stable Population cuckoos invade Australia : Comments

By Malcolm King, published 4/7/2013

The SPP is using environmental and heritage groups - much as cuckoos lay their eggs in the nests of other birds - to hatch their anti-immigration message in the lead up to the September federal election.

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*Every time you and the SPP make a statement on population, you can hear the laughter from the fourth floor of the DEEWR Population and Labour Strategy branch in Canberra.*

And that Department along with many others is just another parasitical Dept that leeches onto the teat for sustenance to keep it in existence.
When we get the big crash, it will disappear along with all the others and only essential departments will survive.
So it's hilarity is not an issue to the real world.

The other issue is that the push for more population including migration and fly in/ fly out is coming from big business and is simply a move to have an excess of labour to bring wages down.
Posted by Robert LePage, Sunday, 7 July 2013 9:25:45 AM
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Robert LePage,

The following excerpt is from an article by Tim Colebatch, the Economics Editor of the Melbourne Age, which is presumably part of Andras Smith’s conspiracy of racists, along with the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the Productivity Commission, and the Australian Conservation Foundation (ACF), which has nominated human population growth in Australia as a Key Threatening Process under the Environmental Protection Act, and the Australian Academy of Sciences, which recommended in 1994 that we not go past 23 million.

“People born overseas have taken almost three-quarters of the net growth in full-time jobs in Australia in the past two years, even though they make up just 31 per cent of the adult population. Analysis of the Bureau of Statistics jobs data reveals that, comparing the six months to April with the same months two years earlier, Australia gained just 131,000 more full-time jobs - one new full-time job for every five new people. But in net terms, people born overseas gained 97,000 more full-time jobs, while Australian-born people gained only 34,000. The economy created only one new full-time job for every 10 more Australian-born people aged 15 and over. The figures raise doubts about employers' claims that they must hire workers from overseas because Australians are not available to do the jobs.”

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/skilled-newcomers-flood-fulltime-jobs-market-20130614-2o9vm.html#ixzz2YLJos5JE

Here is a link to the ACF submission. It explains exactly how a bigger population damages the environment.

http://www.acfonline.org.au/sites/default/files/resources/EPBC_nomination_22-3-10.pdf

Andras Smith, who I believe is a migration agent, tries to pretend that those opposing the Big Australia agenda are a tiny, unrepresentative group, but this link gives the results of a public opinion survey right after the Kevin Rudd’s Big Australia speech.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/big-australia-vision-goes-down-like-a-lead-balloon-20100803-115g7.htm
Posted by Divergence, Sunday, 7 July 2013 6:08:26 PM
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Quite right Divergence. “Andras Smith” is pretty clearly the Andrew Smith who used to post inflammatory comments on the academic website “The Conversation”, where he was accused of being a troll and much criticised. He was also forced to admit he was a migration agent, which means he had a vested interest in the arguments he was making for high immigration and rapid population growth. (Failing to draw attention to one’s vested interests is a No-No on that website.)

As Shockadelic points out, Smith relies on ad hominem arguments to cover an indifference to evidence. Smith’s modus operandi (as identifiable as a fingerprint) is to trawl through US websites for material to discredit US environmentalists and population campaigners, and then attempt to attach guilt by association to his Australian opponents. Apart from this being an invalid argument, it seems not to have occurred to Mr Smith that he could far more easily be tarred in the same way by association with prominent Australian pro-population-growth advocates, since these include a remarkable number of business persons who have been “disgraced” or pursued by the National Crimes Authority.

With Malcolm King there is an even more obvious trail of self-interest. King runs a PR business called Republic Media, which offers a service whereby he writes and places articles in the media to promote particular views. His claims of past achievements, on Linked-in, include boasts like:
“* Wrote and placed $150K news, features, op eds in local and national media and nullified major crisis media management issue and returned brand to health”.

He is guarded about his clients:but from the repetitive titles and equally repetitive contents of his published pieces, the clients clearly include (1) an organisation concerned at job discrimination against older workers, (2) another which attempts to attract OS students to Australia, seemingly for the Australian external campus of Carnegie Mellon University that operates out of the Torrens building in Adelaide, and (3) some part of the growth lobby (quite likely the Property Council) which wants an ad hominem campaign against those questioning population growth in Australia and in S.A.
Posted by Livio, Monday, 8 July 2013 1:15:31 PM
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Thank you Livio. So, I had him pegged right all along. He is a PR man for the growth industry. When he did not respond to my accusation, I figured I had nailed him. he had to keep his mouth shut to keep his cred.

His moralising simply concealed his self interest.

Naughty boy, Malcolm.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 8 July 2013 2:16:21 PM
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Global population growth peaked in 1962.

Sorry but the reality is most likely a peak global population this century and then its decline. Half the nations now are under replacement fertility.

We are not at 1.7%, we are 22,000,000 permanent residents and 1,000,000 temp visa holders counted in our official rates. mMd as batpoo!
Posted by dempografix, Monday, 8 July 2013 5:13:38 PM
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Dempografix, all your statements about demography are either untrue or, in context, misleading. Are you a hoaxer?
Posted by Livio, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 12:00:25 AM
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