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Palestine: suspending disbelief is an unbelievable hoax : Comments

By David Singer, published 12/3/2013

Perhaps it is time for Mr Ross and others in the international community to consider the principle of reciprocity in negotiations.

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The survivors of the A.D. 70 revolt were subjected to similar provocations that led to another revolt in A.D. 132. The Romans prevailed again, and the revolt ended in A.D. 135. The Roman Emperor Hadrian (Publius Aelius Hadrianus) punished the surviving Jews.
He renamed Jerusalem after himself and the god Jupiter Capitolinus—Aelia Capitolina. He then imposed the death penalty on any Jew who would enter the city.
Some historians feel that this period was most likely the time that the Romans renamed Judea as Palestina (or Palestine). Others believe the change occurred about a century or so later, after Constantine established the eastern (Byzantine) part of the Roman Empire. Notice: “Till the period of the Roman occupation it [the Mid-East area later designated as “Palestine”] was subdivided into independent provinces or kingdoms…but never united under one collective designation. The extension of the name of Palestine beyond the limits of Philistia proper is not older than the Byzantine Period” (Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th ed., Vol. 20, p. 601).
So, the Roman term “Palestine” came into existence well after Scripture had been written and canonized. The term “Aelia Capitolina” did not last for Jerusalem, but “Palestine” became a more permanent name for the region including and surrounding Judea. Understandably, the Jews who have lived there since then have rejected that name.
Posted by Sam C, Thursday, 14 March 2013 8:53:22 PM
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The Roman Emperor Hadrian punished the Jews by renaming Jerusalem after himself He then imposed the death penalty on any Jew who would enter the city.
Some historians feel that A.D. 70 revolt was most likely the time that the Romans renamed Judea as Palestina (or Palestine). Others believe the change occurred about a century or so later, after Constantine established the eastern (Byzantine) part of the Roman Empire. So, the Roman term “Palestine” came into existence well after Scripture had been written and became a more permanent name for the region including and surrounding Judea. Understandably, the Jews who have lived there since then have rejected that name.
Holy Land Never Called Palestine in Scripture
Some believe that Israel today was once called Palestine millennia ago. The word Palestine does not occur in the original Hebrew or Greek Bible texts. The Hebrew term Pelesheth, which refers to the land of the ancient Philistines—Philistia—is erroneously translated in the King James Version as “Palestina” in Exodus 15:14 and in Isaiah 14:29 and 31, and as “Palestine” in Joel 3:4. The New King James Version correctly reads “Philistia”—the land of the Philistines—in every case noted above.
The Bible does not use the term “Palestine” or “Palestinians” to designate any geographic location or people. Nor does the historian Josephus ever use these terms in his major works, Antiquities of the Jews and Wars of the Jews. These relatively recent terms cannot change history—much less Scripture.
In the New Testament, other terms denote the territories of that region. For example, in Luke 1:5, Herod (the Great) is King of Judea. In Luke 3:1, we find other references: Pontius Pilate, governor of Judea; Herod (Antipas), Tetrarch of Galilee; Philip, Tetrarch of Ituraea (northeast of Judea); and Lysancas, Tetrarch of Abilene (near Ituraea). Notice that there is no “king,” “governor” or “tetrarch” of Palestine found anywhere in Scripture—more proof that “Palestine” was not an ancient term.
Secular History Finds “Palestine” Without Merit
Posted by Sam C, Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:03:40 PM
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Dear Sam,

Who cares what this or that Roman emperor said or did? Both the Jewish and Palestinian narratives only complicate life - the people of Israel need not be burdened by either, be they true or fake (or anything in between as is likely the case): they live where they are, the vast majority born there, so they should be allowed to have a decent and peaceful life.

If Jewish and Palestinian ideologues wish to fight, then let them do so on the moon where no real people live.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 15 March 2013 1:11:53 PM
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