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Anti-Islam: is history repeating itself? : Comments

By Ali Kazak, published 27/2/2013

Some of the causes of anti-Semitism were: a condemnation of the Jewish religion by some; a view that Jewish particularisms were a barrier to assimilation; and that Jews were not capable of integrating into the society in which they lived.

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Peter Murphy,

You've made a category mistake and missed the point entirely, the distinction between religion and race is critical to the discussion. Most people who comment here have no objection to Moslems as individuals but are conceded at the influence of Islam on liberal democratic society, as earlier generations were, in regard to communism or any other totalitarian ideology.
A straw man argument that you've presented is that critics of Islam are racist and necessarily supporters of current Western policy towards the ME, many are not.

Which would you prefer to be, a Moslem in a Western nation or a non-Moslem in a majority Moslem society? One of the sources of friction in our society is the inability of some Moslems to accept the fact that Islam is just another religion and that they're no longer members of the ruling caste.

Those of us who are informed in regard to Islam and its history know what the real distraction is and it's "race".
Posted by mac, Thursday, 28 February 2013 11:41:36 AM
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The essence of this discussion is that any political ideology that is disciplined authoritarian in nature and backed by militant thuggery is a threat to the “Open Society.”

In to-days world that threat is from Jihadists and Militant Islam.

My reading of Karl Popper, “The Open Society and its Enemies” suggests that the template for all totalitarian ideologies was none other than “Plato’s Republic.”
Posted by anti-green, Thursday, 28 February 2013 12:46:00 PM
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Promoters of hatred? So why doesn’t Mr. Kazak start with the hate and violence in the Quran and hadith against non-Muslims? In fact, more verses are dedicated to maligning infidels than any other theme in that book. Allah says that non-Muslims are animals, or lower than animals (25:44 , 7:176, 8:55). Note also that Mohammad, a man who dedicated 10 years of his life to attacking, looting, raping, murdering and enslaving nonMuslim men women and children, is their great moral example. Perhaps, who knows, this explains the hate, violence and discrimination practiced by Muslims everywhere they dominate. It is not a few “bad” (a trivial minority) but all Muslims that accept this hate and violence, and none of them have the courage or honesty to examine their own writing, history and practices. They must, instead, make stupid excuses and blame everything on others.

Does this bother Kazak? No. What Kazak calls “anti-Islam” is nothing more than telling the truth about Islam, its theory and practice.

Notice that Kazak promises “animosity, hostility, division and violence to Australian society” for the simple reason that people say things Muslims don’t like. Not once does he examine the actual text of the so-called 'hate speech'. Why? Because Wilders quotes Islam’s own texts and talks about Muslim behavior. Facts!

A link and text…

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Global-Viewpoint/2013/0124/Why-Middle-East-Muslims-are-taught-to-hate-Jews?nav=90-csm_category-storyList

Quote: All over the Middle East, hatred for Jews and Zionists can be found in textbooks for children as young as 3, complete with illustrations of Jews with monster-like qualities. Mainstream educational television programs are consistently anti-Semitic. In songs, books, newspaper articles, and blogs, Jews are variously compared to pigs, donkeys, rats, and cockroaches, and also to vampires and a host of other imaginary creatures. Unquote.

And it is not just the jews, it is all non-Muslims they hate. In large numbers, Muslims cannot live in peace with nonMUslims. They will try to impose their vile theology and practice. Mohammed's values are not "Western" values. AS I have said before, this will not end well.
Posted by kactuz, Thursday, 28 February 2013 1:38:28 PM
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Ah kactuz,

Great post --good to see you back on line
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 28 February 2013 2:44:04 PM
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Peter Murphy.
Your post is a text book example of how fiction and urban myths about WW2 distort people's understanding of the present.
WW2 was NOT fought over "Tolerance" or anything of the sort, along with the so called Holocaust those concepts are the post facto justification given to Americans to explain why 400,000 of their men had to die in a war that did not concern them in the first place. The second European war erupted because of the intolerable conditions placed on Germany by the League Of Nations, Polish and French belligerence toward Germany and the break up of the Austro Hungarian empire, the ideas of "Justice", "freedom" and "democracy are products of this mindset of American exceptionalism and the "Good War".

Why is it that nobody ever talks about the other war in this context, you know, the actual, honest to god race war which raged in Asia between 1937 and 1945?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 28 February 2013 3:12:58 PM
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If Ali Kazak is in any way representative of Palistinians, his anti-democratic religious prejudices destroys my last vestige of support for a "two state solution".
Posted by Leslie, Saturday, 2 March 2013 12:09:06 PM
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