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Anti-Islam: is history repeating itself? : Comments

By Ali Kazak, published 27/2/2013

Some of the causes of anti-Semitism were: a condemnation of the Jewish religion by some; a view that Jewish particularisms were a barrier to assimilation; and that Jews were not capable of integrating into the society in which they lived.

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I do not mind if Geert really speaks from his heart and own convictions about Islam n Muslims. But if you notice his concern is not Islam, his concern is any body raising their voice against the jews, rightly or wrongly as u can observe his persistent repeated reference to the alleged anti-semitism.

The problem is he is a jewish zionist Hasbarat i.e. agent for the Zionist Propaganda Machine; while the common jews are just fair n dinkum good guys like the common christians or muslims, the zionists (both christian and jewish) are waging a war against Islam which they believe inspired the Palestinian (muslims) to raise their voice against zionist Israeli atrocities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLs6C2hYC8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MgSUnq7_5Y

http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/12/the-great-islamophobic-crusade/

http://www.rabbimaller.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCKWDarNdGw&feature=related

And who says we have a right of free speech in Australia? We do not have a constitutional Bill of Rights to provide right of free speech. Also right of free speech is not a right to spread hatred. And if you still believe in right of free speech, just try to speak about holocaust revisionist history and expect ASIO banging on your door. Why else do you think David Irving is being refused entry to Australia

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Australia/index.html

Freedom of Speech: APPLICABLE ONLY WHEN IT APPLIES TO MUSLIM BASHING
Posted by JGandhi, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:01:50 PM
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The writer ignores the fundamental difference between Judaism and militant Islam as far as Australia is concerned, which is that at present there are no Jews planning and mounting violent attacks against the West.

If you watch the film "Back of Beyond" from 1963 (about the Birdsville postman) you will detect no trace of objection to Bejah and the other muslims living in Marree. That is because they were not considered a threat. It was only when militant Islam, in the person of the Ayatollah, burst on the world scene that the threat became apparent.

If you go back to the 1920's there was considerable resentment against Irish Catholics, due to their fenian practice of letting off bombs and killing people. The resentment is not against races or religions, but against people who wish to employ violence to gain their ends. Unfortunately it only takes a few extremists to blacken the reputation of a whole community.

If immigrants, whether from Serbia or the Middle East would only do what almost all Australians desire, which is to leave all their conflicts behind when they come here, we could all live in peace.
Posted by plerdsus, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:41:25 PM
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Mr Kazak thinks no one should have any more rights than another in Australia, except aboriginal people? Wow! How do I explain this to my Australian born children? Apparently we are all equal but some are a bit more equal than others.
I understand the anti Wilders demonstrators standing up for freedom and human rights by bashing up some old people, well done!

Please leave your hatreds and supremacist ideas at our borders. Personally I think all religion is a pestilence on the Earth and yes it is all the same junk from Christianity to Scientology.
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:41:48 PM
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Kazak
"It is ironic that the visiting Dutch MP Geert Wilders is today unashamedly launching exactly the same propaganda campaign, but replacing Jews with Muslims."

This is unequivocally incorrect.

The Nazis "scientific" basis was grounded in two modes of thought:
1. Racial science.
2. Romantic nationalism.

The disagreement today is between Islam and the modern world, or what is called liberalism.
Islam is political theology grounded in a 7th century transcendent metaphysics, where submission to Allah is of the highest importance. Liberalism, on the other hand, is about negative freedom; that is, freedom from restraint.

The insertion of "race" into the discussion is to throw mud on the opposition in the hope of silencing them. Islam cannot be defended on intellectual or cultural grounds, and the Islamists and leftists know it (this is why you never see this angle taken as a defence of Islam), so they attempt to discredit and silence opposition through shaming language.
Posted by Aristocrat, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:57:13 PM
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JGandhi,
This is the fact of the matter, All we can do is repeat over and over again the key about Wilders and his true motivations.
1.He is interested only in furthering the interests of the state of Israel and the political ambitions of Jewish and gentile neoconservatives
2. He is funded and promoted by Neocon interests based in the U.S.A, namely David Horowitz, Pamela Geller, Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer, people whose ignominious roles in building the case for the unjust Iraq War are well known.
There is a "Jewish Question" here but it's not perceived in the way that the clearly anti Racist author has framed it.We hear these conspiracy theories about Jewish bankers or Jewish this and that but the fact is that Jews and Gentiles have worked together for centuries, certainly for profit but in the main their projects have been beneficial to the wider community, the building of Australia from a small colony to a first world democracy was one such collaboration.
However there is undeniably a bad element whose activities cause nothing but harm and misery for those they touch, Communists, Anarchists and lately Neoconservatives do no good in the world and mightily annoy even working class people with little interest in the big picture issues.
The problem for ordinary Jews is that down through history these rogue elements, these "idle intellects" as Herzl called them make such a nuisance of themselves and wreak such havoc that anti Semitism builds to a point where it explodes into the inevitable Pogrom.

It's true, the majority of Jews who suffered under the Nazis had done nothing wrong and the Jewish Communists and Anti Fascists who really did get under Hitler's skin by killing people and blowing things up mostly escaped Europe before the hammer came down anyway.
Continues:
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 1:14:58 PM
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Cont:The anti Racist/anti Fascist rants against Wilders are childish and their accusations baseless, the comparison to Nazism is pointless since virtually nobody outside academic or hobbyist historian circles knows anything about the Third Reich beyond the most simplistic trivia and urban myths.
Comparing Wilders to Hitler is wrong, comparing him to Goebbels is instructive only if one understands where Goebbels stood in relation to the other players in the Nazi hierarchy and had examined his essays and speeches.
I've expressed a conviction that Wilders and his benefactors are leading their followers straight to hell and that if in the unlikely event that they did gain any sort of power on the continent they would provoke another disastrous European War.
Why do I hold that conviction?
Because that group of people were up to their necks in the unjust Iraq war and are beating the drums against Iran and the 44 million Muslims living in Europe, war is their gig and anyone who follows them is on a path to their doom.
There is a need for Europeans to confront radical Islamists and ethnic gangs, Wilders isn't the man to turn to for solutions because he isn't loyal to ordinary Europeans and doesn't have their best interests at heart.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 1:34:19 PM
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