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Competing Oz-ocracies and the corruption of democracy : Comments

By Ken Macnab, published 26/2/2013

During 2012 Australians were battered by relentless propaganda from a plague of self-serving 'ocracies'. We were not alone in this.

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"... common wealth is pillaged for private gain"

Not much of an argument for holding wealth in common, is it?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 9:43:02 AM
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A good article - but there is a big problem. The author wants a greater imput by the populace into democracy but 1. The current selection is no selection at all and 2. The option of entering politics is fast running out of reach of the common man.

We have clowns running the states and country, we have large swaths of electorates who vote one way or the other out of habit, we have major parties and lobbies who have massive purses to fund campains, we have a media that lies, cheats and manipluates to sell-sell-sell.

The only way to win is to deny them battle, that why I sleep in on polling day. There is not one polly who is worth my time, not one who is a resonable choice and not one who will stop our headlong charge into total decimation. Greed, arrogance and incompetence are the hallmarks of our leaders and I for one will not be responsible for electing the next batch of 'leaders'.
Posted by Arthur N, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 10:47:53 AM
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The author makes some very valid points.

In the 1980s Alex Carey was making similar arguments but the population has not yet woken up. Andrey Lohrey edited Carey's work into a book, "Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda versus Freedom and Liberty" and it is well worth studying.

Mainly speaking about America as an example, Carey wrote, "I believe, that George Orwell's warnings about future threats to liberal democracies were largely, even dangerously, misconceived.

Influenced by Orwell's erroneous views, popular consciousness has been drilled in the expectation that the subversive Left, supported by influences from `outside' the country, is about to control public and individual thinking. (This is the corporate-sponsored narrative which provides the justification needed for managing democracy in the interests of business.)

Meantime the real attack is in stark contrast to Orwell's expectations. It has come from the Respectable Right. But this actual threat is more or less ignored by the community, for it is vastly sophisticated, appears un-coercive yet is dedicated to corporate interests.

Whatever Orwell's intentions, his work has been exploited so as to misdirect and confuse the public into looking in the wrong places for the `brainwashing' instinctively felt by many." ".... in the name of free enterprise and anti-communism, a great number of social scientists, sponsored by corporations, are willingly engaged in advancing Orwell's thesis by way of a corporate-managed democracy.
Posted by Foyle, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 10:57:02 AM
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These Oz-oracies are very easy to control.

The producers of our country need to trade amongst themselves and stop feeding the parasites. Stop digging up the minerals for them; stop building their houses, making their cloths and transporting them.
It would clearly illustrate their value. We would have a lot of staving, naked individuals walking everywhere with nowhere to live. To survive they would have to produce. Imagine the effect that would have on productivity! Oz-oracies would decrease.

Clearly this is silly. A complex society requires some essential none productive services to function. We need to question the balance and degree of these activities and the reward (proportion of productivity) a particular activity attracts.

If you control the reward, you control the Oz-oracies.

A proportional voting system would also be an essential change.

Good article
Posted by Producer, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 1:40:27 PM
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What about the fearocracies and corruptocracies of the socialistocracies

The greenocracies that convinced the labor state governments to build the stupid and utterly wasteful desalination plants because it wasn't going to rain in Australia again. What about the stupidity of the unvoted for carbon tax introduced by the fundamentally imported and dishonest idealogies of the socialistocracies.

What about the corruptocracies of the debased labor party or the socialistocracies. And no there are no corrupt individuals among the conservatives. If there was, the socalists in the mediaocracies would have made sure it was common knowledge.

The alarmocracies who jump up and down at any and all perceived dangers and force governments, especially socialist governments, to jump on their bandwagons and legislate away our freedoms. Of course those socialistocracies love that particular sneakiness.

In the last 6 years federally 21,000 new regulations have been put in place and 105 have been abolished. Why did they abolish 105?

Ken I think your article on the right track but you address only part of the issue.

I've just addressed the part you omitted or have not noticed.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 7:23:26 AM
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To a large extent, we, the people are more to blame than anyone else. We duck along to the polling booths every few years thinking we are doing great things for the country. Then we leave government to the poor sods we elect, under pressure from every self-seeking Australian, while we go home for a beer, glass of wine and nibble, or we head straight to the beach or footy.
Most people dream that politicians are there just to help them. As If! They are there to earn a living , build a career, feed the family, pay for a home, take hols and build super.
For thousands of years rulers have looked after themselves and their supporters. Democracy only differs in that we use words instead of swords to pick rulers.
In 1986 I launched FairGO & the Votergram service taking any person's message to every MP, then monitoring how they respond and giving credit at election time for those who help voters and absorb what they want. See awards on Fairgo.org site. Results were instantaneous. We have discovered that because many politicians don't much care about many of the issues - just like the other people in your street and suburb - they are happy to pretty much do what people suggest. Contrary to the views expressed earlier there are great, hopeless and okay people in parliament. Asked properly, advised fully, persuaded persistently, they will do great things. When I started the Roadwatch campaign in 1987, the road toll was 16 per 100,000. Now it is 5 per 100,000. Much of that reduction is thanks to politicians who we pestered, abused and persuaded to impact on crash causers & causes. Now I have launched Residents Roundtables for people to put their views to politicians. Maybe you would like to host one. Greg
Posted by Voterland, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 5:37:30 PM
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