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Extreme weather in Australia : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 19/10/2012

Extreme weather hasn't increased in Australia, and we have got better at dealing with it.

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"If the global warming is NOT related to human cause, then we are in big trouble. I wonder if denialists like cohenite take out insurance?"

What warming, according to the MET warming stopped 16 years ago despite increasing CO2.

I take out insurance against real things not imaginary things like AGW or the purple people eater; I wonder if I can get insurance against alarmists who are the real menace.

And what a joke relying on insurance data to prove AGW; as if insurance companies, like other big sell out companies, wouldn't use AGW to pad their bottom line; anyone who thinks otherwise is a gullible fool.

The fact is the current climate is about as good as it gets; humanity should be filling its larder and getting its energy sources gold-plated before mother nature, b.t.h that she is, has a change of mood.
Posted by cohenite, Friday, 19 October 2012 4:06:20 PM
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No tornadoes in Australia! Well I'll be b---ered.
Apart from the endless trotting out of false facts? Denialists seem to share the almost universal attitude, adopted by the now infamous, Shell B, Wright; or, it won't happen to us, it always happens to somebody else; or, the hear nothing, see nothing, learn nothing, Sergeant Schulz Syndrome?
An Ice age? Sure, love one thanks!
Should go well with a cold beer and a warm, fly free, bloody beudy flamin b-b-Q!
Albeit, will probably miss those little peppery tasting ones, that always add to the alfresco dining experience, and the great Australian salute, during the height of an Australian summer.
We can survive if our average temps fall by around 5C! But, we'd have a snowflakes chance in hell, if they rise by a similar amount!
Climate change? Man made or natural?
Who can say with any absolute surety? But on balance, the evidence seems to point at us and our emissions?
Can we reduce these emissions? Sure can! No problemo!
And can we use the changes we make, to build an even larger, much more equitable, prosperous and sustainable economy?
Why sure! Piece of cake!
But, not by doing what we've always done, or burying our collective heads, somewhere warm and comfortable!
Doing what you've always done and expecting a different result is sheer madness! As is waiting for serendipity to solve our problems for us!
By the way, and talking about an ice age?
Did you know haw the native kiwi parrot, the Kaka, got its name?
No?
Well, it flies around the Southern Alps, its little ice tipped beak chattering like a flamin 50 cal M15; crying out, ka, ka, ka, crikey, it's ka, ka, ka, cold.
You all have a nice day now,y'hear?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 19 October 2012 4:25:17 PM
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I agree (as would Blind Freddie) with the author's point that location and type of dwellings has had the biggest impact on disaster fatalities.

But the statement (re) 'the big 3 disasters of the last decade......it is hard to see any sign of a link between these disasters and 'climate change',..... is a statement that is unsupported by evidence and which exposes the underlying bias of this article.

Scientific analysis of such recent disasters as the Melbourne fires and Brisbane floods has indicated some influence of the .9 degree temperature rise that has mainly occurred in the last 20 years.
Posted by Roses1, Friday, 19 October 2012 7:29:53 PM
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Yep ,They morphed from Global Warming to Climate Change,scares of Ocean acidificication,drastic sea level rises,now to Extreme Weather,caused by CO2.

What's next? Global warming is causing Global cooling?
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 20 October 2012 5:57:41 AM
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Where are all the climate change sceptics who are qualified climatologists and actually know what they're talking about ?
Posted by mac, Saturday, 20 October 2012 8:35:20 AM
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"Scientific analysis of such recent disasters as the Melbourne fires and Brisbane floods has indicated some influence of the .9 degree temperature rise that has mainly occurred in the last 20 years."

That is false. In respect of the 2009 Black saturday bushfires being linked to AGW:

http://mises.org/daily/3343

In respect of the 2010 QLD floods being a product of AGW:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/before_you_scream_global_warming_two_items_of_fact_about_brisbane/

What is a fact is that AGW policies exacerbated both the bushfire and the flood. In respect of the 2009 bushfire green policies prevented adequate burning off and this extra fuel made the fires more intense.

In respect of the 2010 QLD flood the fact that droughts had been predicted by AGW spruikers and alarmists meant the Wivenhoe was used to store water and could not mitigate the flood.

It makes me sick when I read or hear people use these 2 natural disasters as proof of AGW when they are in fact proof of the disastrous consequences of AGW and green ideology
Posted by cohenite, Saturday, 20 October 2012 8:37:20 AM
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