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Fukushima - local children unwitting (and unwilling) radioactive guinea pigs : Comments

By John Daly, published 31/7/2012

The National Institute of Radiological Sciences conclusions refute the government's assertion that Japanese children in effect received zero thyroid radiation doses from Fukushima.

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I think there will be a massive spike in cancer from Fukushima caesium, say 10 years and more from now.
Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 6 August 2012 10:33:10 PM
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Lying? Not me, Arjay… It really was 13 April that I posted those extracts from Busby's report. I also don't know whether to be offended that you forgot to call me stupid.

And, strictly speaking I didn't claim Busby said it, but it is what he wrote - if he is now saying anything different, it's not based on that research and he is lying if he says that it is.

Since he is your cited authority, maybe you could ask him if his published report was wrong?

My take on his "Uranium and other contaminants in hair from the parents of children with congenital anomalies in Fallujah, Iraq" is that the statistical deviations on the reported results are not outside the range to be expected from the relevent background water and soil samples and natural environment - but no doubt you'll tell me why you think otherwise.

The Guardian piece was interesting and without wishing to seem callous you do realise neural tube defects are the most common type as well as being the most easily prevented with sufficient folic acid in the mother's diet during initial stages of pregnancy?

In case you didn't read beyond your favourite part - the headline - what did you make of this?

"Falluja's frontline doctors are reluctant to draw a direct link with the fighting. They instead cite multiple factors that could be contributors.

"These include air pollution, radiation, chemicals, drug use during pregnancy, malnutrition, or the psychological status of the mother," said Dr Qais [Falluja general hospital's director and senior specialist]. "We simply don't have the answers yet.""

Since we've had the benefit of nearly 3 years since the newspaper article has there been any update?

And more to topic: 0120-926-404. In case anyone needs it this is the number in Japan 'for those afflicted by the accident at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (Nuclear Damage Compensation)'. The Tepco.co.jp website yields hours of hugely detailed technical reading in you're interested.
Posted by WmTrevor, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 9:42:32 AM
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WmTrevor where are these extracts from the Busby Report? Do you make things up as you write them?

I've had info just tday from a friend who has contacts in Japan.If this ifo is right,it is a lot worse than than even I imagined.Fukushima continues to spew radiation into the environment.Apparently the authorities and Tepko are in denial and have a not a clue to approach this disaster,let alone contain it.

The Russians put 800,000 personal into the Chernobyl disaster.No such reaction has happened in Japan.The Russians encased their reactor in concrete and steel.Japan has just poured water on 3 reactors in meltdown which has gone into our oceans.

Wm Trevor,Care to put a bet on which disaster is worse? It will take but a couple of years for the truth to emerge.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 7:08:20 PM
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"WmTrevor where are these extracts from the Busby Report? Do you make things up as you write them?"

Arjay, you shouldn't judge my ignorance or methods by your standards.

If, "The report that concluded:" was an insufficient guide – try section 4 Conclusions, page 9, sentence number six. The one immediately before Acknowledgements.

And just in case it's needed:
International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health ISSN 1660-4601
www.mdpi.com/journal/ijerph
Article: Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005-2009
Chris Busby, Malak Hamdan and Entesar Ariabi
Received: 7 June 2010; in revised form: 23 June 2010 / Accepted: 30 June 2010 / Published: 6 July 2010,

As for: "The Tepco.co.jp website yields hours of hugely detailed technical reading [if] you're interested."

Your comment: "Apparently the authorities and Tepko are in denial and have a not a clue to approach this disaster,let alone contain it." indicates that you're not interested. Your choice of course.

But it is a poor one.
Posted by WmTrevor, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 8:07:15 PM
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Link to your Busby anomolies WmTrevor or retract your comments.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 8:26:33 PM
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It was silly of me to assume, Arjay, that in your general thread, "Ignoring Fukushima at our peril" when you said things like:

"Note also Planet3 that Prof Busby says the USA were using some sort of new nuke in Fallugah and not DU." on 9 April 9; then

"Yes Planet3.Dumbfounded is not enough to express my amazement.Prof Chris Busby has done studies at Fallugah in Iraq.Drs there have told women to stop having babies because the the extreme congential birth defects.Busby first suspected Depleted Uranium,but upon inspection of women's hair samples,found that it was Uranium refined to a nuclear weapons level.He suspects a mini nuke or at the outside some sort of a neutron bomb that emits lower levels of radiation." on 12 April…

That you'd actually read the reports Busby wrote, including the one I've referenced above.

Well I've learnt not to assume or be surprised by your level of research any more.

I am, though, surprised that given the amount of information I supplied above, you can't find it and need me to give you this:

http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/7/7/2828/htm

Because I'm still in a helpful mood – here is a link to a free downloadable font for you to use to display the report if it will make it easier to read:

http://www.dafont.com/pastel-crayon.font

Now which comments did you want to retract?
Posted by WmTrevor, Thursday, 9 August 2012 9:00:50 AM
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