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How far do Palestinians have to go to have their voices heard? : Comments

By Jim Barr, published 28/5/2012

This month marks the 64th anniversary of what Israelis call their independence, and what Palestinians call the Nakba – or catastrophe.

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Jim Barr
"The sooner Israel realises it has no option other than to make peace with its Arab neighbours, the better it will be for all"

So what about the Palestinians constantly launching rockets into Israel?
Do they have some responsibility to make peace as well?
Posted by Aristocrat, Monday, 28 May 2012 3:17:06 PM
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How exactly does an occupied people make peace with their brutal, nuclear-armed, conscienceless, fanatical occupiers, Aristocrat?

It's rather like cutting off the arms and legs of a person then telling them to swim!
Posted by David G, Monday, 28 May 2012 3:53:37 PM
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Dear David,

I take it from your response that you support the launching of rockets into Israel.

<<How exactly does an occupied people make peace with their brutal, nuclear-armed, conscienceless, fanatical occupiers, Aristocrat?>>

By making their enemies even more brutal, more fierce, more conscienceless, more fanatical?
Well, that's what they've tried so far and look what they've achieved!

They managed to create hell for ordinary Israelis who had nothing against them but good-will, they also managed to drive some good Israelis out, increase the birth-rate of bad Israelis and bring more of them in from America. How charming!

I'll leave it for historians to decide who is right and who is wrong in the middle-east, but it's easy to tell who is wise there and who is a fool - and the Palestinians are NOT on the side of wisdom. If they took Gandhi's non-violent example, they would have had the whole place to themselves decades ago. There would indeed be no Israel if they did, but it's Israel's good luck that those fools enjoy planting bombs and shooting rockets more than they care for their families having a life.

I don't believe that you care either about allowing those poor Palestinians to have a life - for you they are merely pawns in your struggle to create a new world-order.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 28 May 2012 7:20:33 PM
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David G
"How exactly does an occupied people make peace with their brutal, nuclear-armed, conscienceless, fanatical occupiers, Aristocrat?"

A two state solution will work if Hamas and other Palestinian, Arab, and lefty extremists accept Israel's right to exist. This includes ceasing to lob rockets into Israel.
Israel isn't going anywhere so it's best to be pragmatic about the situation and work toward a two-state solution.
Posted by Aristocrat, Monday, 28 May 2012 8:12:17 PM
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@Yuyutsu
"They managed to create hell for ordinary Israelis who had nothing against them but good-will"
Read your history Yuyutsu. Read the link provided by Clair above. The Zionists have NEVER shown good-will to the Palestinians.
Posted by halduell, Monday, 28 May 2012 8:47:34 PM
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"Many of those Palestinians and their descendants are still living in refugee camps in neighbouring countries without rights and without hope". One could also add "and without any criticism of those neighbouring countries by either the UN or the international community, who, like Rev. Bar, seem more interested in finding fault with Israel than finding solutions." Fully half of the population of Israel is made up of Jews that were forcibly expelled from those same neighbouring countries, some from communities that predate Jesus. When will their voices be heard?
Posted by Dannyg, Monday, 28 May 2012 8:53:23 PM
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