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What's wrong with this picture? : Comments

By Ross Elliott, published 29/3/2012

New suburbs provide higher design codes and feature more energy and water efficient homes.

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In the 60s, I courted a young lady who lived in Sutherland, [down Cronulla way]. The houses were cheap little fibro boxes, but so what? It was a great place. Yards were large, open, & had nice gardens. The footpaths were full of kids playing, as were the yards.

I went through there last year. What a mess. Infill everywhere, everything so jammed up it was depressing. Every bit of land was full of housing of the very worst type, infill & six packs. No room left for parking, so the streets were so full of parked cars, as were the foot paths that it was hard to even drive through. If we could force the planners who push this rubbish to live in these developing slums, there would never be another built.

I met my wife at Mooloolaba yacht club. We were both on yachts in there for a few days. A walk from the yacht club up to town for a hamburger a loaf of bread, or a beer was a real pleasure. It was a beautiful place in the mid 70s.

We had not been back, so recently when nearby, we took a sentimental trip to have a look at the place. What a mess.

Without a sat nav we had to park the car, & go walk around just to find how to get down to the harbor, so "infilled" is the area. Again infill & hi-rise had destroyed a beautiful place.

Fellers, you can keep it.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:19:13 PM
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Ross you state 'The first and most obvious thing that can be said of these projects is that they’re popular. Already more than 100,000 people are living in recently developed master planned communities in the South-east corner of Queensland alone, and that will rise to more than a quarter of a million people as existing projects reach completion. Popularity is a sure sign of market success and means these projects are filling a need within the community.'

Sorry but popularity does not equal success. You continue to drive and survive on the growth mantra.

In years to come this site will be known as a fools paradise.

We live on a finite planet, more people equals more use of all resources, ever heard of the law of diminishing returns, perhaps you should go back to school and do a little bit more education.

The last thing Australia needs is growth, urban infill, suburban spread or TOD's as you put them. Growth is over, get used to it and smell the real roses, or better still a flower that produces some sort of food product.

What a terrible article and argument you put forward.
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Thursday, 29 March 2012 1:44:55 PM
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So when are the Anti Growth lobby going to toughen up and tackle the big issue, immigration?
There has to be a credible Zero Immigration movement and it has to have some teeth for any of this out of control growth to be brought under control.
Example, we had 17,000 new Irish immigrants to Victoria last year, that intake alone has added a population roughly the same as that of Wangaratta with all it's material needs, housing, infrastructure, health etc.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 29 March 2012 2:05:46 PM
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We are working on it Jay - getting our immigration slashed that is.

Already we have had a sitting prime minister unseated partly based on his unpopoular support for a 'big Australia'.

What were one of the first things that Julia Gillard did upon toppling Rudd......she publicly and explicitly distanced herself, on the 7:30 Report, from 'big Australia'.

You boosters are no longer unchallenged on Austrlia's political stage so you had better start getting used to the idea that you will no longer have it all your own way with endless growth.
Posted by Boylesy, Thursday, 29 March 2012 5:30:59 PM
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...Hasbeen are the eyes to the consequences of overpopulation, and the blind attachment to economic growth at any cost; while Jay of Melbourne nominates accurately the reason.

...But, I can predict the madness is in decline. House prices are crashing across Australia, and mortgage and rental stress escalates, as banks panic into “rort mode” to shore-up sagging profits, (including the traditional corporate unimaginative stand-by, which harbours the usual anti-social blind view, of exporting Australian jobs to Asia, to achieve this aim).

...Rolling city suburbs, gated behind invisible fences of ethnicity, are the consequence offered to Australians following the blind importation of people, designed to prop-up narrow views of the vested interests of banks and developers, working hand in hand against public interest.

...The eyes of “Hasbeen”, are rightly horrified as he views the blatant consequence to living standards of fellow Australians by “slam-dunk” development. What strikes me as the pinnacle of madness in urban development mentioned in this article, is the total un-necessity of it all.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 30 March 2012 7:01:10 AM
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<< So when are the Anti Growth lobby going to toughen up and tackle the big issue, immigration? >>

We have been, all along. Our champions – Dick Smith, Bob Carr, Mark O’Connor, Kelvin Thomson, John Coulter, Jenny Goldie, etc, etc have always been very strong on this point. But it has obviously so far proven impossible to get our highly unillustrious leaders to accept.

<< There has to be a credible Zero Immigration movement and it has to have some teeth for any of this out of control growth to be brought under control. >>

For sure!

Hey, it would seem that you are well and truly in the ‘anti growth’ lobby, my friend. Good stuff.

Although I’d prefer to call it the sustainability lobby, which fully supports the right sorts of growth, but denounces continuous expansionism.

Cheers.
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 30 March 2012 8:22:09 AM
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