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Why the need for consensus? : Comments

By Petra Bueskens, published 14/2/2012

MTR and the current feminist controversy.

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Thanks Forrest Gumpp,
I didn't think you were shooting across my bow especially, but I did have a large piece of the thread. I take your point that the whole debate over feminist credentials is a decoy designed to detract from the real issue of a vested interest in an institutional line of policy that can hardly be claimed as personal conviction. And it's as well to monitor MTR's political career.

Interestingly, JW's defence of "public
expression of female sexuality" is vested in the notion of sexual/personal freedom, yet today's Science Show was devoted to the topic of hyper-humansexuality as a socialised phenomenon, rather than an expression of freedom. But I digress..
Posted by Squeers, Saturday, 18 February 2012 3:51:33 PM
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Squeers,

To digress a little further upon your digression. According to Desmond Morris, humans are the most highly sexual of the primates (the only primate apparently where the female of the species achieves orgasm). With an intellect to match, it's no wonder that modern humans have problems integrating intellectual values and biological imperatives.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 18 February 2012 4:57:07 PM
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Oops, this comment belongs here:

Thanks Poirot,
It's interesting that MTR invokes the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights", a secular/humanist document, to protect her Christian parochialism. I might take pause for a moment too to pick on the word "universal". Not only are our grandiose human rights not universally agreed-upon in the cosmos (so far as we know), they're specifically flouted here on Earth! What is universally respected on Earth is "an award of compensation"; ie, "money". That brings one down to Earth!
Good to see MTR's not to caught-up in religious coils.
Posted by Squeers, Saturday, 18 February 2012 5:03:37 PM
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Squeers,

You got that comment in the right (the other) thread I see.

(It's a bit confusing with more than one thread on the same overarching subject :)
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 18 February 2012 5:10:04 PM
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Squeers, in his post of Saturday, 18 February 2012 at 11:52:35 AM, at the conclusion of that post states:

"The banal and more important question
then would seem to be: "has anyone saved
the undoctored online material on MTR?""

The broad answer to this question, if I can be permitted to echo a December 1936 answer given in the Dial to an equally important question from General Mulcahy, by Eamon de Valera, is "I think so".

(Thats just a little enigma to lessen the banality for the historically inquisitive. Happy Googling!)

One of the reasons I am somewhat informed as to this whole issue is that I was alerted to the defamation action threats against JW very early on via a tweet from he who self-confessedly tweets too much, Twitter userID 'GrogsGamut' (Greg Jericho) whom, sadly, I 'follow' on Twitter. Having only recently become acquainted with the deficiencies with respect to the continued accessibility of tweets on the Twitter platform itself, through the loss of acces to the '#reinstateallanasher' timeline tweets, I took it upon myself to have the '#MTRsues' timeline tracked from its outset by the third party web service Tweet Reports.

As a consequence of that tracking having been instituted, an archive of all tweets to that hashtag conversation now exists. Anyone may have access to it by signing up for the free seven day trial of Tweet Reports, and actually import that archive for the cost of as little as US $9 for but one month's subscription to the service. Anyone can peruse, free, a substantial part of that archive, backward from the most recent tweets, here: http://search.tweetreports.com/search_results.php?search=%23MTRsues&sear=Y . JW has taken out a subscription.

Many of the tweets in the archive contain links to online documents, or references to non-digitised records, as well as constituting a record as to informed users interested in this controversy. Some users tweeting display significant levels of skills in following the electronic trails of information removal or alteration.

As an example, this Twitter exchange: https://twitter.com/#!/Aulieude/status/164668958052589568

https://twitter.com/#!/ForrestGumpp/status/164686480906788864

https://twitter.com/#!/Aulieude/status/164696460892446721
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Sunday, 19 February 2012 12:13:18 PM
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