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The IR conundrum: society or economy? : Comments

By Tim Martyn, published 15/11/2005

Tim Martyn argues there is a trade off between society and the economy with Australia's new industrial relations laws.

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Aaron, Congratulations mate you even have approval from t.u.s=t.b.t for your plan, now that is what I call progress. Of course the bully boy tactics only come from the unions, never employers. Of course the Government employees who are uniounised include police, teachers, lawyers ect, who seem to enjoy having their own associations to represent them, unlike many in the private sector, who are either too afraid to belong to a union, or are too naive to see the benefits the public sector see. I find it very interesting that t.u.s=t.b.t has given you his approval, considering his reply to my post previous, when I suggested a boycott, perhaps he is like all bully's when outnumbered, suddenly there comes a backdown. I think and have thought from the beginning that your plan was a viable one mate, and I also notice now that two Tory MP's have opened a site to dobb in a boss, remarkable, they vote for the legislation to empower employer's at the detriment of employee's then set up a site to dobb your boss in for not treating you correctly, a bit like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted. You wouldn't use their site anyway, you could not be confident of where the information might end up. Please keep going with your plan mate, it is a beauty, after all unionists are capitalists also, all we have to sell is our labour, which we want {like business} the most we can get for it.
Posted by SHONGA, Friday, 2 December 2005 1:05:55 PM
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Shonga,

I have almost finished a semi-detailed outline of the proposal however my PC is playing up (it drops out regularly) makin it difficult for me to post it on my blog.

I am actually contacting the marketing section of some of Australia's largest corporate citizens to seek in principle approval to support the proposed campaign. I also intend to supply all ALP Senators & MP's with a copy (via my local senators and members).

I will also utilise every contact I have in the ACTU / Unions / Trades Halls to ensure that this proposal is considered as a viable response to the current IR changes.

IT IS ALL IN GOOD FUN
Posted by Aaron, Friday, 2 December 2005 10:57:43 PM
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Oooooo Some nasty person, (Looter) has tried to hack in on my financial account at Amazon, hope they realize that IP addresses exist, and we are tracking, expect a knock on the door soon from the fraud squad .
Posted by All-, Saturday, 3 December 2005 8:26:26 AM
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Aaron/All; Aaron, I have viewed your blog, and in my humble opinion, it is excellent mate. All, what a dirty b@#$ard, hope you catch him
Posted by SHONGA, Sunday, 4 December 2005 8:38:01 AM
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Memo to Shonga - We live in Australia.

The Federal Government is a Liberal-National Coalition. Nary a Tory in sight.

In fact, your despised Tories are elected officials in a country called England, half a world away. In England the Labour Party knows how to spell Labor, they drink their beer at room temperature and alas they have hold of the Ashes (until next summer anyway).

But, those evil Tories are part of the class struggle, so march on dear soldier.

As for bullying unions versus bosses, the new IR levels the field. Whereas a disgruntled employee has the power to move on to another job, often bosses have found it hard to move on from a disgruntled union. Just ask Richard Colebatch.

And yes, Aaron's idea has merit, but as a carrot rather than a stick. It could easily be abused to cause harm to non-unionised businesses who otherwise treat their workers well.

t.u.s
Posted by the usual suspect, Monday, 5 December 2005 10:35:05 AM
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