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Climate refugees : Comments

By Mike Pope, published 15/11/2011

It's not if but when climate change refugees arrive, so we need to decide how to deal with them.

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please explain what Semetic actually means , imajulianutter, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 9:13:56 AM
Posted by Garum Masala, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 1:10:12 PM
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Loudmouth Joe,

actually while the language of Bangladish is as you say Indo-Iranian, the religion of 85% of Bangladeshis is Islam. It is this religious influence, which was introduced by semitic peoples, is the more persuavise in influence on Bangladishi society. Similar is seen in Iran.


Garum Masala, Jay Of Melbourne here are a couple of definitions and your point was?

Semitic or ( less commonly ) Shemitic (sɪˈmɪtɪk)

— n
1. a branch or subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic family of languages that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic, Amharic, and such ancient languages as Akkadian and Phoenician

— adj
2. denoting, relating to, or belonging to this group of languages

3. denoting, belonging to, or characteristic of any of the peoples speaking a Semitic language, esp the Jews or the Arabs

4. another word for Jewish

Shemitic or ( less commonly ) Shemitic
— n
— adj

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American Heritage Cultural Dictionary

Semitic [(suh- mit -ik)]

A descriptive term for several peoples of the Middle East and their descendants, including Jews and Arabs ( see Arab-Israeli conflict). Today the term is mainly applied to Jews. ( See anti-Semitism.)

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Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 7:45:41 PM
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Thank you, Imajulianutter. To get back to topic, but now that you mentioned Bangladesh, I do recall in my geography classes that the tectonic plate on which Bangladesh sits is tilting down in the east and tilting up in the west (in Bengal in India), so that floods were going to be far more likely in Bangladesh as the Brahmaputra was blocked by the sea and as coastal subsidence meant cyclones (typhoons) would do far more damage to Bangladesh over time.

We also learnt that Pacific coral atolls subsided and were always being slowly built up, but that they were always in danger of being swamped by high seas, viz. Tuvalu. We also learnt that the Aswan Dam would block the transportation of Nile silt to the Delta, leading to its rapid erosion by the sea. They were great teachers up at Flinders.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 8:00:35 PM
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imajulianutter,
See Joe's post, I assumed your use of the word Semitism referred to Islam, a more recent influence on the region.
"Semite" is a confusing term in this context, there's speculation that "Khazars" and "Aryans" who supposedly spread the Indo Iranian languages are related through the Y chromosome...and not via Abraham either, they're supposedly Nimrod's sons....which is a disturbing thought.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 9:11:33 PM
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So-called environmentally induced migration is multi-level problem. According to Essam El-Hinnawi definition form 1985 environmental refugees as those people who have been forced to leave their traditional habitat, temporarily or permanently, because of a marked environmental disruption (natural or triggered by people) that jeopardised their existence and/or seriously affected the quality of their life. The fundamental distinction between `environmental migrants` and `environmental refugees` is a standpoint of contemporsry studies in EDPs.

According to Bogumil Terminski it seems reasonable to distinguish the general category of environmental migrants from the more specific (subordinate to it) category of environmental refugees.

Environmental migrants, therefore, are persons making a short-lived, cyclical, or longerterm change of residence, of a voluntary or forced character, due to specific environmental factors. Environmental refugees form a specific type of environmental migrant.

Environmental refugees, therefore, are persons compelled to spontaneous, short-lived, cyclical, or longer-term changes of residence due to sudden or gradually worsening changes in environmental factors important to their living, which may be of either a short-term or an irreversible character
Posted by jane_perth, Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:24:02 AM
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So-called environmentally induced migration is multi-level problem. According to Essam El-Hinnawi definition form 1985 environmental refugees as ―those people who have been forced to leave their traditional habitat, temporarily or permanently, because of a marked environmental disruption (natural or triggered by people) that jeopardised their existence and/or seriously affected the quality of their life. The fundamental distinction between `environmental migrants` and `environmental refugees` is a standpoint of contemporsry studies in EDPs.

According to Bogumil Terminski it seems reasonable to distinguish the general category of environmental migrants from the more specific (subordinate to it) category of environmental refugees.

Environmental migrants, therefore, are persons making a short-lived, cyclical, or longerterm change of residence, of a voluntary or forced character, due to specific environmental factors. Environmental refugees form a specific type of environmental migrant.

Environmental refugees, therefore, are persons compelled to spontaneous, short-lived, cyclical, or longer-term changes of residence due to sudden or gradually worsening changes in environmental factors important to their living, which may be of either a short-term or an irreversible character
Posted by jane_perth, Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:25:18 AM
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