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The trend of destiny: The impossibility of population growth : Comments

By Michael Kile, published 31/10/2011

Population growth is not the best outcome for society or the planet.

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It is a pity that the level of debate at OLO is so degenerate. Nothing will convince the likes of Curmudgeon that mathematics is real and Cheryl is completely wedded to her contempt for anyone that threatens the idea of growth. What I would call the "anti-reality" fever has reached new heights as oil prices remain stubbornly high, Middle East nations dissolve into civil war sparked by high food prices and the economies of Europe and the USA collapse under the weight of ridiculous levels of debt. The "oil crunch" should arrive by 2014 or earlier and I wonder what Curmudgeon and his friends will say then? What will they blame the situation on as western economies collapse into depression and Australia struggles with "The recession that isn't our fault" (my guess at the Laboral slogan we will hear). As future food production declines and hunger increases (leading to more unrest leading to more hunger etc.) the problems with energy and food will probably be blamed on the unrest itself - blaming the symptom rather than the problem. That will allow conventional economic theory to continue its pretence of validity a little longer - maybe until the situation is so bad that nobody will care anymore what the likes of the "anti-reality" mob (or any mob) think - we will all just be so desperate trying to get by.

It will be fascinating to watch the comments by Curmudgeon and his friends evolve as the situation steadily worsens - although I have not seem much evolution recently - he seems to be in a rut of telling us how he has already proven the falsity of our "claims" and questioning why we don't understand that.
Posted by michael_in_adelaide, Monday, 31 October 2011 9:10:14 PM
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<I just returned for Japan and the government is faced with both an ageing population problem and an under population (youth) dilemma. Most of western Europe is in the same boat.>

Here we go again. Japan is doomed because of the ageing catastrophe and low fertility. Ditto for Europe. But what are the comparisons? Where are all the examples of countries with a high population growth rate, young populations and huge prosperity? I can think of plenty of cesspits of misery and deprivation that fit the bill. Surely even the most fanatical Cornucopians dont see a brighter future for the inhabitants of such places? It seems a completely illogical stance, much like viewing a wealthy estate and predicting collapse, then looking toward poverty stricken people living in cardboard boxes and predicting great prosperity.

Ther is no sense in such a view.
Posted by Fester, Monday, 31 October 2011 10:31:36 PM
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Michael. Their brains don't understand simple mathematics, so we should stop trying to enlighten them.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 31 October 2011 10:36:49 PM
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Fester, you are arguing details and ignoring the logical outcome of what it is they are justifying and Demanding.

No one is Demanding Japan become more diverse, ie less Japanese. Japan is 98.5% Japanese.

No one is Demanding Africa become more diverse, ie less Black.

No one is Demanding the Middle East become more diverse, ie less Arab.

They only make these Demands of all White countries and only White countries. "Anti-racists" openly celebrate a Brown Future, in all White countries.

They want White GeNOcide.

Some anti-Whites claim, it is all about wealth of White countries.

Asia and parts of the Middle East are wealthy, but anti-Whites ask regularly when dirt poor Eastern Europe, will be ready for this immigration.

So why must dirt poor Eastern Europe be "ready" and before the others?

They are White.

"Genocide involves the attempt to achieve the disappearance of a group by whatever means. It does not have to be violent, it could be a combination of policies that would lead to a certain group dying out."

Malcolm Fraser (Prime Minister of Australia 1975-1983)
Posted by AlisonGraham, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 5:12:44 AM
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Michael,
How are things "getting worse" and for whom are they getting worse?
It's crazy to think that our kids are going to starve, they won't, that's not the way the world works.
Very few people starve to death in this day and age and if they do it's usually along some arduous route to an aid station run by White people.
Hunger/poverty and starvation are not the same thing.
The average Indian would not tolerate living with the levels of material discomfort experienced by his parents, the whole idea of Third worlders being helpless is, dare I say it "Racist".
what's more the simple fact is that with more White people in the world the levels of material comfort for Third worlders will always grow because our race won't tolerate suffering among other tribes, let alone among our own.
The idea that White people will fail to secure at least basic provisions for all of the human tribes is simply, shall we say ..retarded, it's a retarded, stunted world view that denies both the present reality and normal human hopes for the future.

The reactions to "politically incorrect" dissent on this page are typical of the "beaten generation" above mine, Boomers and their acolytes need their doubt, fear and guilt like they need oxygen.
White people partnering and mentoring Third World governments will fix these short term problems, the planet is not going to collapse if there's a White scientist in every department of Agriculture across the globe.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 6:00:38 AM
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Jay. "White people partnering and mentoring Third World governments will fix these short term problems, the planet is not going to collapse if there's a White scientist in every department of Agriculture across the globe."

Dream on.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 7:21:26 AM
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