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Palestine: will acceptance ever replace rejection? : Comments

By David Singer, published 15/9/2011

If it's like its predecessor next week's Durban 111 Conference on Racism will be full of racism directed against Jews.

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Oh the poor bloody jews. Forever we here the cry, "What have we done to deserve this".

Wake up to yourself David. When the Zionists stop treating the Palestinians like sh1t you might get some sympathy, but until then, stop complaining.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 15 September 2011 9:29:03 AM
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Mr. Singer concludes his selectively quoted article, as is his habit, with the following...
“Taking a stand at Durban 111 and the UN to demand Arab acceptance of Jewish rights to statehood - as the General Assembly made clear 64 years ago - must be the message that rings out loud and clear”.

It is hard to believe that this is written by the same David Singer. Now, all of a sudden, he is concerned about Jewish statehood which they have enforced through the murderous occupation of Palestinian land and the planned ethnic cleansing and apartheid practices since 1948. Why? Because the UN vote is due in a few days for Palestinian statehood. Israel is in the process of losing any association with Egypt, already lost with Turkey, all other Arab states and most of the world with an interest in justice and freedom, instead of brutal murder and hatred.

Now he is worried. The boot is on the other foot. How does it feel?

We see the occasional reference to the UN from the mouthpiece for Israel, a country which has ignored more UN resolutions than all other countries together. No other country has used blackmail and corrupt practices to encourage the US to use its Security Council veto on every occasion demanded by Israel. No other country has ignored demands to admit to the ownership of over three hundred nuclear warheads as part of its program of Eretz Israel expansion, and that means at any price.

He quotes paragraphs for various Palestinian Charters which promote antagonism towards Israel. Better having such items mentioned in charters than having even worse crimes actually carried out daily by a militaristic and inhumane country for over sixty years.

The world is tiring of the likes of writers with allegiance to a hated country which hopefully may now be aware of how disliked they are and even more so, following the UN vote this month on Palestinian statehood.

Everyone realises that the US and Israel have never been interested in the disgraceful “Peace Talks”, a deceitful charade for decades.

Never again
Posted by rexw, Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:40:08 AM
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Ah Mr Singer,Palestine ancient homeland of the Jewish people,says who, O that's right the Bible, Old Testament,which is about as reliable as Science Fiction novels,or Fundy Christians and the belief that humans and dinosaurs roamed and lived together on earth.
They even have a theme park,there you go David set up Israel as an theme park in competition with Disneyland,as that, the Bible and Ancient rights you rattle on about are all FICTION,the Israelis stole that land and continue stealing it and the illegal settlers harassing and murdering the Palestinians and outside supporters.
I see your last fairytale got no comments,maybe you should just quit while your behind,its all going pear shaped old son and no amount of paid propaganda by you will change it.
Posted by John Ryan, Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:34:22 PM
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Everything is negotiable,including the acceptance of peace-loving Jews in the Middle East.

Israel has demonstrated that it does not want to negotiate. It wants to continue "talking" until it has achieved its Zionist objective of ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their lands.

Rediscover and retrieve the morality of Jewish faith and tradition and make a future for yourselves - and for Palestinians.

Stop teaching Jewish superiority and the myths of traditional "ownership" of Pasestinian lands in your schools and give your children a chance.
Posted by Stan1, Thursday, 15 September 2011 1:33:20 PM
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Palestinian farmer Muwaffaq Abdul-Raziq said troops demolished his well in Khirbet Atuf, near Tubas. The well cost him 750,000 shekels to construct, he said, adding that he had obtained a license to build it. The well was expected to pump enough water to irrigate around 700 dunums of farmland, Abdul-Raziq said. He appealed to the Palestinian Authority to protect farmers in the Jordan Valley from Israel. Meanwhile, Israeli forces destroyed two Palestinian wells on the outskirts of An-Nassariya, a village northeast of Nablus, Palestinian security sources and eyewitnesses said. The wells were recently dug by Palestinians. Israeli rights group B'Tselem said another two wells were destroyed at the same village last week.

As one can see, this is the kind of daily activity that creates the antagonistic climate in Palestine. It is a daily occurence and these Israelis blatantly stated that the ‘Israeli rights’ group destroyed other wells last week. It was not a ‘human rights’ group, such phrases being mutually exclusive in Israel.

'West Bank villagers' daily battle with Israel over water'
'Israeli military continue to target water wells in the West Bank'
'Land owners prevented from farming by Israeli soldiers'

Just three headlines today showing quite clearly that Israel has no intention to desist with its plans for ethnic cleansing by whatever means, the latest hateful activity being to pump sewerage on to Palestinian farming land to prohibit the cultivation of crops, all with the approval of Netanyahu and his evil cabal.

It allows people all over the world to see Israel for what it is and shows clearly that the comments by this writer, who represents himself to be an ‘Australian lawyer’, is really nothing more that an Israeli front man using the system in this country to achieve his objectives.

There are a lot like him.

The 'rejection' referred to in this article is the rejection by the world of the activities by the imported "settlers", the dregs of Europe who, at the behest of Netanyahu and funded by Israel, have an free hand to murder Palestinians without hindrance
Posted by Rhys Stanley, Thursday, 15 September 2011 5:38:09 PM
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Dear David,

Citing biblical rights indicates that you are truly desperate: if my memory does not betray me, you never used such arguments before.

This is not to say that Israelis have no right to live freely on their land, safe from Islamic terrorism - they do! But what's the bible got to do with it?

If we are to believe the bible, then we find that on average, during the biblical period, Israel was a small country, smaller than today, which most of the time was not independent, but was forced to pay taxes and send soldiers to fight along the regional empire of the day.

Another false legend is the "2000 years of dispersion and persecution": the period when no significant number of Jews lived in Israel is much shorter; most Jews left Israel for economic reasons - and were never expelled (Jews were only expelled by the Romans from Jerusalem, not from the rest of the country). Many Jews remained on their land and never left, then once the Muslims invaded in the 7th and 8th century, they converted to Islam to avoid the heavy tax on non-Muslims. In fact, the irony is that many of those former Jews have recently, in the 1970-80's, got the craze to call themselves "Palestinians".

No. The right of Israelis to live freely in their independent state does not depend on any book, ethnicity or religion, but on the simple fact that life under Muslim regimes is terrible and nobody should deserve to suffer that way.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 16 September 2011 1:10:59 AM
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Geez. I suppose this is what happens when history is defunct.

Israel was not created out of Palestine; there was never any such country. ‘The British Mandate for Palestine’ was a remnant of the old Ottoman Empire, inhabited by Jews and Arabs jointly, and largely without conflict. After WWII, the UN recognised both Israel and Jordan as nations; its objective was to give those Jews who survived Nazi persecution someplace to live. France and Italy had cooperated in genocide; going ‘home’ wasn’t an option. And recall that half of Germany and all of Eastern Europe were forcibly incorporated into the Soviet Union, then led by Stalin, who was busy exterminating enemies in his infamous labour camps (~18 millions between 1930 and 1960) ... including Jews.

The population of Israel is approximately 75% Jews, 25% Arabs. All Jews have been expelled from most Arab countries; only Tunisia still has a small Jewish community. In Europe, that was called ‘ethnic cleansing’, and loudly denounced.

In 1967 and 1973, Arab nations declared war on Israel with the explicit objective of expelling and/or exterminating the Jewish community. Peace treaties between Israel and the Jordinian territory of Palestine were negotiated in 1978 (Camp David Accords), in 1992 (The Oslo Accords), and in 2000 (Clinton’s Camp David Summit). In all three cases, Israel agreed to recognise Palestine as a nation. In all three cases, Yasser Arafat failed to deliver on his promises to recognise Israel as a nation. Rocket attacks, shelling, and suicide bombing against Israel have been more or less continuous for 30 years. Singer is correct to point out that Hamas, the PLO and others insist, as a matter of policy, that Israel be wiped off the map.

I absolutely support Palestinian statehood, with full rights for its citizens, and have done for decades. So do most nations. But it’s terribly disappointing to see so many people assuming that, if only Jews would make nice to their Arab neighbours, peace would break out in the Middle East. That isn’t what history tells us. That isn’t a serious response to a serious issue.
Posted by donkeygod, Friday, 16 September 2011 5:22:01 PM
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There is one stream of thought which suggests that Israel has been sold out, that Turkey is going to be the new centre of gravity for the NWO as they roll into this war with Iran.
There is even a view that some reconstructed version of an Ottoman Empire will be the "big dog" in the Middle East once the war resolves itself.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 17 September 2011 5:38:43 PM
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