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Julia Gillard’s inability to change political direction: A price we all pay : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 8/9/2011

The decline of the Left, the disappearance of the Centre and the bullying of the Right: the modern Australian paradigm.

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Yabby,

'... the Rockefellers, Rothchilds and others, really don't matter'

This sort of statement, when these are the people who own the banks which own the Fed Res and influence most of the selection of most of the members of the FOMC which dictates the economic direction of the USA and the world, is plainly stupid.

To discuss anything sensible with you is impossible. You seem to think I make things up. You totally disregard relevant facts. You shoot off on irrelevant tangents. You sink to personal abuse ... much of which can fairly be applied to yourself.

You miss the point of any discussion. Most of us, unlike you, don't undertake such simply to impose our viewpoints onto others. Most of use use it as a medium to expand our knowledge and to learn from others.

Oh and I've been self-employed since I was 17. I have never worked as an employee.

I'm also a pacifist and reject the notion there is anything prestigious in anything military.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 2:43:59 PM
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There you go, Nutter.

http://www.usagold.com/federalreserve.html

Unlike yourself and Arjay, I tend to question a little and not believe
every conspiracy theory that comes my way.

*Oh and I've been self-employed since I was 17. I have never worked as an employee.*

Err so what? As it happens I've been self employed
too for most of my life, but that has nothing to do with the
debate about prestige. Marius Kloppers might be an employee, but
his position in society carries alot more prestige then yours.
Which was my point.

*I'm also a pacifist and reject the notion there is anything prestigious in anything military.*

Well that is just your point of view. It hardly matters in this
context, about what earns prestige in the USA, which is what we
are discussing. It is their perception of the world which matters,
not yours.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 4:45:54 PM
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There you go. still at it aren't you? Trying to impose you very limited world fiew onto others.

Don't you understand I have little faith in your views ..which is my right.
You really shouldn't hector people to accept your view....nor abuse them.

This is becoming really very distasteful.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 7:24:31 PM
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http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/federal-reserve-system

There you go Nutter, some more skeptical information about the Fed,
despite the hysterical claims by the consipiracy theorists.

Abuse? The only abuse that I see is in the nick that you seem to
have chosen for yourself. Keith was far shorter and less abusive
to yourself.

You are quite correct, you don't have to believe a word that I post.
That is your choice. But this whole debate started when you
challenged what I had written. If my responses upset you, best
you don't respond to my posts. All that I can do is remain factual
and well informed. If that upsets you, well I can't help that.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 8:04:01 PM
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More of your abuse because i have a different opinion from you.

Well Yabby anyone reading our exchange will have a good old belly laugh.

One of us believes bankers, when given an opportunity to either act in the interest of bankers or in the interests of the wider community, will choose to act in the interests of the wider community.

Additionally one of us maintains bankers would be more interested in a few billion dollars in annual profit rather than in having the power to exercise great influence over interest rates, the US economy and much of the western worlds economy.

Additionally one of us believes money doesn't confer prestige and that bankers would rather assess prestige in terms of employment rather than in terms of capital.

Sheeeeesh.

Now do you think credibility could be confered on the opinions expressed by someone holding such unusual beliefs?

lol
Posted by imajulianutter, Thursday, 15 September 2011 8:13:35 AM
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Nutter, you still don't get it, but that does not suprise me.

If you've ever owned bank shares you'll know that banks generally
do best when the economy is ticking along nicely, people are
borrowing and banks are lending, with minimal losses from dud loans.

So its in bankers interests to fullfill the mandate given by the
US Govt, which is to keep the economy ticking along in a healthy
state. They both benefit.

The board of Governors is however appointed by the President and
Congress, they are not allowed to own shares in private banks.

But continue to see conspiracy theories everywhere.

Bernanke is not chairman of the Fed for the money. Only some people
can be bought, so your post tells us something about you.

Fair enough.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 15 September 2011 9:44:02 AM
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