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By James Carafano, published 3/5/2011The assassination of Bin Laden is not an end-point but a way station.
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Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 May 2011 9:05:43 AM
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irst remove the mote from thyne own eyes
"Democracy was being saved from Communism by getting rid of democracy." -- Newsweek magazine about the Dominican Republic prior to overthrow of elected President Juan Bosch in 1963 sad how you see the clear media lies in other lands http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/08/new-osama-bin-laden-video-tapes-appear-to-be-fakes/ but miss it in our own backyard http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/08/billionaires-for-eugenics/ too many cooking/cop/murder/police state shows[here] http://www.smh.com.au/world/doubts-grow-on-us-version-of-strike-against-bin-laden-20110505-1eaah.html not enough info or fact http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKPOhFZuFQg to much spin http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178898.html http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.php bbc reports...today hard press release that the bin liner was running his empire from his safe house[without phone/internet] so likely by cammel..and on pap-irus notes... run to the frontlines..via runners and rumours ya gotta love how poor the spin is here is a fat high cheekbones old person most certainly not..the frail/old sick bin liner note the RIGHT-hand holding..the 're-mote' he was a lefty http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110507/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden ie cia says bin liner ..LEFT HANDED http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden even the oppisite line to con-firm...bin liner as ever being real now further proof of life....lol http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/hes%20alive.jpg mate hes been dead since 2001...! http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/04/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/ still faking http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384420/When-U-S-bombing-started-took-children-moved-cave-Startling-insight-life-Bin-Ladens-young-wife-gave-terror-chief.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384420/When-U-S-bombing-started-took-children-moved-cave-Startling-insight-life-Bin-Ladens-young-wife-gave-terror-chief.html look at her fingers http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/06/article-0-0BE8183200000578-439_634x542.jpg PHOTOSHOP[over./lay] interesting as to glinton being photoshopped out? http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/the-hillary-ed-out-in-brooklyn-op-ed/ [only in israel"...tha land of spin] http://uruknet.com/?p=m77492&hd=&size=1&l=e proof we all have been waiting for binliner is dead http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/the-proof-we-have-been-waiting-for-bin-laden-is-dead-again-including-the-latest-threats-from-the-grave/ DIkkk is back 'come water boarding' http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/08/dick-cheney-reinstate-the-torture-program/ republican taken in by photshop recants http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/novice-repuglican-taken-in-by-photo-shopped-bin-laden-photos-admits-error/ the rouges gallery of the bin libners dopplegangers http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osamatape2.html?q=osamatape2.html all spin http://whatreallyhappened.com/ http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/jontalton/2014976024_biztaltoncol08.html conclusion http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.php its a beat up Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 May 2011 9:57:23 AM
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Thanks, OUG, you're sort of proving my assertion.
I forgot a couple of other theories: * 9/11 was a Mossad/CIA/Swedish [my contribution] plot, for God knows what reason; * none of it happened, it was all a giant hologram and smoke cloud: those 3000 people supposedly 'killed' were all whisked off and are confined in a secret underground CIA gulag somewhere in either Colorado or New Mexico; * it's all media spin: if they had a mind to do it, then they could have done it, and if they could have done it, then they did do it. Why ? Because they are all such b@stards. Ergo, they did it: evil people can do anything - just look at any James Bond movie. Love that logic :) Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 9 May 2011 9:59:21 AM
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the White House..(and Wall Street)
realized that a live bin Laden..is more much useful for scaring America...into wars of conquest..than a dead one. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html In 2007,shortly before her assassination,Benazir Bhutto confirmed bin Laden was already dead. http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14819 Every “Osama”..that has been shown in the media since then has been exposed..as a fake...This includes the “Osama” from 2004… http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osamatape2.html?q=osamatape2.html … which was recycled(with a new background) as part of yesterday’s claim of “Home Movies.” One particularly sloppy example of the latest hoaxes to be foisted on the gullible,..which embarrassed the UK Daily Mail, http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/114767 Other demonstrated/frauds are at http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/113992 http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/114266 and http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/114329 Common sense will tell you that if that really had been Bin Laden who was gunned down in cold blood last Sunday that there would be no need for faked evidence,..! and indeed fakes would be avoided precisely because the revelation of a single hoax casts the credibility of the entire story into doubt. Therefore,..if there is..*just one fake, the logical conclusion is that the entire story..*is fake, and as you can see above,this does appear to be the case..regarding the claim that the US..“got” Bin Laden. Remember how the White/House claimed to watch..the killing in Live TV? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382859/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-photo-Obama-watching-Al-Qaeda-leader-die-live-TV.html#ixzz1LIIde9UI The White House even released a photo showing Obama,Clinton,etc, all watching the live AGENCY>feed..of the raid. Of course,the most obvious clue that this was a staged photo..is that the laptops are not turned on. And sure enough,the head of the CIA admitted..*there had been no live feed..after all! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html The reason for the change..is obvious. The foreign media has been reporting..that it was Pakistani troops who raided the home..and shot the old man,* while looking for those who had shot down.. *a Pakistani helicopter. http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/7366885.html http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/113992 Only after neighbors stated that the dead man might be Osama Bin Laden did the US swoop in and try to pretend this was an heroic operation by the Navy SEALS,..so of course ..*there could be no video, live or otherwise of the SEAL/raid....*It didn’t happen. How many times do you have to be..lied to before you understand...why/who/when..you are being lied to? Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 May 2011 10:05:48 AM
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Loudmouth,
You're so right! ...And the reason America is such a conspicuous presence in the oil-rich middle-east is because of altruism (they just haven't had the time to get to Zimbabwe yet) ...And corporations like Halliburton and Blackwater don't make enormous profits with money funnelled to them from the American taxpayer. Love the logic :) Posted by Poirot, Monday, 9 May 2011 10:33:24 AM
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Poirot, that tends to oversimplify things. Loudmouth makes some very good points regarding the conspiracy theories.
Things aren't that simple. I simultaneously believe that: A) US corporations such as Halliburton have deep connections within the government, they screw taxpayers and are immensely corrupt. B) The US, when weighed against other superpowers aren't all that evil C) Not everything they're doing in the Middle East profit-driven evil D) Their prime motivation has been combating terrorism and ensuring a supply of oil, however neither of these things are fundamentally evil. Making war to ensure a supply of oil sounds irresponsible, but if it's done to ensure your country's prosperity, in my book, it falls under doing the wrong thing, but not necessarily for the wrong reasons. A leader's (or a party's) prime responsibility is the well being of their own people first, then other countries. My main beef has been with the half-assed execution of their middle-eastern forays. Any argument which simply says America=bad is too simple. America isn't a single entity and their motivations can't be spelled out so simply. Simplifying the motives of terrorists is sometimes oversimplified, but a core aspect remains the murder of innocent people. Thus, they're worse. That's self-evident. Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Monday, 9 May 2011 2:47:43 PM
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now there is the small matter of the security of his claimed papers
no doudt a trickle feed of them will now go through the news cycle
the time shall come ..when they stuff up the spin
they get from the intel/papers/hardrives]
thus i propose its is copied
sent on to the members of the g20
for safe keeping..[so when they get behind something
begottenm from murder..it can be verified..in house by referincing their copy
the origonals..should be made into a honey trap
a shrine..
to attract those comlicite..
in the cia mossad scam
or any fool enough to claim to be members of 'el toilet'
those security agencies...so caught up
in supplying,the tools of terror prevention
and secret wars
as well as serving their drugs/spin/media-lie...franchises/cartels
those getting the money from the public purse
are our only real/present danger
go and make war no more
peace not pieces
conspiricy theory*
dosnt claim
to be...*conspiricy fact
only asking..*hey
what you think
this smell funny..to you?
i would rather be called a con-spirit-cyt/theorist
than be called left or right wing
im down the middle path
staying centerd all the way
those recalling their lies recall delusions