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Much more than a 'thought bubble' : Comments

By Dick Smith, published 20/4/2011

Dick Smith responds to Ross Elliot and explains why population growth is not the solution to Australia's problems.

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"Give me problem-solvers anyday rather than Malthusian problem-creating doomsayers. Malthus is still wrong."

The only thing that Malthus was wrong about was the timing.

Collapse has happened to all the great human civilisations that went before us.

Our civilisation is no different and will also eventually collapse due to ecological overshoot. It will no doubt survive in small pockets here and there at least for a while. But it will never again be as widespread as it currently is.

Malthusian doomsdayers you say. I would rather them than naive optimists like yourself. Better to be prepared for the worst while hoping for the best.
Posted by Mr Windy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:39:11 AM
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Well said Dick.
Posted by Geoff Davies, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:40:59 AM
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Dick Smith - true capitalist with a latter day conversion to cutting people out of the customer service equation.

Here are some more facts. Australia is a net exporter of energy. We are the ninth largest producer of energy in the world and that is growing.

Our domestic consumption is less than one third of production. Food we have, energy we have and we also have catastrophists in abundance calling themselves the Sustainable People Lobby.

Look up the term cultural pessimism and you'll see these jokers writ large. Look up Spengler and Vico and you'll see the seeds of their anti-humanist thinking.

One of the reasons the anti-pops have failed to get their message across is that at the end of the day we run a capitalist economy.

The anti-populationists are watermelons - green on the outside and red in the middle. Although I'd suggest there is a fair element of Byron Bay fire twirler here too. Don't let the facts stand in the way of your end of the earth fantasy.
Posted by Cheryl, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:43:30 AM
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Now that the global warming debate has been lost thanks largely due to numerous failed predictions and warmist hypocrites flying around the globe and buying mansions on the coast the attention has now switched to another dogma. Australia still has a huge amount of land, resources and yes even water. We can accomodate many many more. In the 1970's the alarmist warned of running out of food and water if the population reached far less than we have now. Instead the standard of living is much much higher thanks to the 'big polluters'. We live longer, eat better and have a higher standard of living. Thank God for His mercies.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:56:58 AM
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Cheryl
We may live in a capitalist society but that is not to say that any system based on unending growth can survive in a finite world. It won't. We have to move to a steady state economy with minimum throughput of resources. This entails a stable population.
Posted by popnperish, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:59:19 AM
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Ho Dick Smith!

Why did you put your signature to this article?

Why didn’t you let me sign it?

I share your Ideas and don’t have as many enemies as you do
Posted by skeptic, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:11:56 AM
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