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So, pro-spanking parents aren’t Nazis? : Comments

By Ben-Peter Terpstra, published 13/4/2011

The evidence supports corporal punishment as a viable and valuable method of discipline.

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In our situation Grandma had smacking permission since she helped considerably with child care when both of us were working. If another close relative had been doing it, a similar arrangement would probably have been made. As for others - No

Grandma used it extremely sparingly as she said it wasn't her place to smack her grandkids.

Jeez, she didn't mind tanning our bums when we played up I reminded but she just smiled and said we needed it ... LOL

As stated earlier, I have no resentment whatsoever because I always knew I was being punished for wrongdoing. And being reasonably bright I didn't need too much explanation that the behaviour had been unacceptable - I generally KNEW.

I do remember once getting into trouble at school, having my head nearly ripped off over something I had no involvement in and being so indignant that my Dad went and saw the Principal. He ended up apologising.

If I had been guilty my Dad would have tanned my backside but he was ready to defend my innocence too. I had great trust in my parents, they were people of integrity and their parents before them. We have tried to live accordingly and believe our own kids have the same regard for us. In any case we have very good relationships with our adult offspring. And *SURPRISE* their child management attitudes are similar to how they were raised, including smacking.

I actually asked my eldest son yesterday did he think we did a fair job as parents? Did he feel he'd had a happy childhood? His initial response was, "Hell yeah!" In the ensuing conversation where mostly pleasant memories were evoked, he said that some of his friends thought he was pretty lucky in the parent stakes. Never told me that before, felt pretty good! "What brought this on?" he finally asked. Never mind I said :-) My last post on this thread. Happy Blessed Easter to all. For non-believers - enjoy the holiday.
Posted by divine_msn, Thursday, 21 April 2011 10:33:07 AM
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“If a child was constantly BEATEN - as in abused, and knew nothing else (therefore that treatment is the childs 'normality') there might well be tendency to accept abuse from others outside the home circle but this is the extreme and once again outside the BOUNDS OF REASONABLE CORPORAL DISCIPLINE.” - divine_msn

This question is for everyone here: What would you say are the bounds of reasonable corporal discipline?
Posted by blwpyrtv, Friday, 22 April 2011 3:19:30 PM
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This one is primarily for divine_msn: Do you think the children who submitted to this guy likely had been abusively beaten at home?

(Montreal) The Gazette
10/31/00

Principal fooled everyone-- How Wadsworth hid his pedophilia

Amanda Green was being a naughty 7-year-old and knew it on that day 13 years ago when she played with the water and climbed on the toilets in the girls' bathroom at Greendale elementary school in Pierrefonds.

She and her girlfriend were caught by their teacher, and Amanda knew she was in for it when she was sent to the principal's office.

David Wadsworth, principal of the school, immediately said he would see the girls individually. When it was Amanda's turn, the Grade 2 student nervously entered Wadsworth's office.

What she had done was wrong, Wadsworth told her, and now he was going to let her pick one of two choices for a punishment: either he would tell her parents and teachers what she had done and take away certain privileges, such as recess and gym; or she could take off her pants and panties and let him spank her as he would his own child, and no one need ever know what had happened.

"Can't I leave my underwear on?" asked Amanda. No, she vividly remembers Wadsworth telling her, embarrassment is part of the punishment.

Amanda, a feisty child, knew she shouldn't have to remove her clothes. She didn't like either punishment, she told him, defiantly. Perhaps taken aback by someone willing to stand up to him, Wadsworth told her to leave his office and never again brought up the incident.

Amanda's friend chose the spanking.

Wadsworth has pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography - pictures and videos of children being spanked - as well as to sexual assault and gross indecency against eight former students at a Pincourt elementary school. Amanda Green, now a Concordia University student, finds herself haunted by how many other children might have chosen to be spanked on a bare bottom by a man everyone believed was a sweetheart principal and a terrific teacher. . .
Posted by blwpyrtv, Friday, 22 April 2011 3:28:42 PM
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I am a mother of six children all born naturally within an 18 year marriage. We have always smacked and our children are a pleasure with no tantrums. they range from 6 to 16.
But it needs to be said that smacking these days is not like smacking 100 years ago. Parents are more negligent and selfish. I think parents needs to be trained on how to train.. not how to discipline. Simple tools like holding the pram when you go shopping to interrupting properly, it is better to lower your voice than raise your voice, don't call your children names, how to feed them properly, how much sleep they need - when and how to put them to bed. All these things if neglected lead to a whining demanding child that annoys a selfish parent and makes them angry and they react with violence. I believe a child should not need to be smacked after roughly 7yrs if you have trained them right, there are so many other calm ways to bring about a consequence for their behavior that will enable them to learn and grow into well rounded adults.We should make it compulsory for all new parents nationwide to undergo a simple training course on how to feed your child, keep them safe and healthy, how to dress them and get them to sleep. There should be three or four different options so to cater for those who choose to do it an alternative way. And as the age of Two seems to bring more challenges lets make it compulsory to undergo training in different ways of discipline - including smacking.. we can all learn from each other - our aim? a better society for them to grow up in. Nothing wrong with discipline done with love - not to punish but to teach with verbal training included.
Posted by Rebecca6, Sunday, 1 May 2011 12:30:10 PM
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