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Liberals do a Bradbury in NSW : Comments

By Graham Young, published 26/3/2011

NSW Labor have no one to blame but themselves for the debacle they are facing.

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I find curious the purported insinuation By KK and others that unless one specifies exactly what one is planning to do for the next 4 years, that one does not have a mandate. Assuming that the coalition obliterates the ALP the mandate delivered by the people will be to undo the corruption and incompetence of the last 16 years.

Given the dodgy and covert deals of the past, it will probably take Barry his first 100 days just to open the various cans of worms and uncover the putrification that lies below, only then will he fully realise the scope of what needs to be done.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 26 March 2011 12:05:53 PM
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Barry O'Farrell will get in,look at the books and shock horror,it was much worse than we thought.Get ready for servere austerity measures.

The first action Barry should carry out is instigate new Govt State a Bank of NSW.All his taxes can be put into this and the fractional reserve system of money creation will pay for infrastructure.We do not need to borrow from the private banking system.Govts do not need to go into debt.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 26 March 2011 1:09:53 PM
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With the falling Branch membership and lack of patronage from business, NSW labor will come to be completely dominated by it's remaining financiers ... the Unions.

Do you really think they'll be ever able to present labor as an alternative when O'Farrell starts governing for his constituents, assuming of course business is not able to continue, with the liberals, it's previously unhealthy patronage?
Posted by keith, Saturday, 26 March 2011 8:39:03 PM
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Graham,

Assume you are a Basil Fawlty fan? You are specialising in the bleeding obvious here aren't you?

Nobody who has heard anything about NSW over the last decade could fail to hear and see the corruption, the disinterest, the crimes, the total arrogance so the result was obvious.

How they syated in this long is the miracle but all that really says is how bad the alternatives must have been, right?

Barry will wish he hadn't won when he starts trying to fix the shambles. Have any of you tried driving around or through Sydney? From interstate all you want to do is turn around and go home. Toll roads on toll roads and bumper to bumper. My God, little public transport alternative either. Who would live there? I guess people from overseas who are used to those conditions, but not Aussies.

I was born there and used to love it but today? Would not go near it.
Posted by RobbyH, Sunday, 27 March 2011 10:00:16 AM
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Good riddance to bad rubbish. Still, and it's intensely ironic, Kenneally was probably the best politician on the night. So, as if they hadn't already done enough to prove how detached from reality a political party can become, NSW Labour is set to replace Kristina with John Robertson, the factional warlord and union fanatic most likely to distribute a much-reduced chest of political spoils amongst dismally unqualified mates and apparatchiks. Some people just can't learn, no matter what you whack them over the head with. Robertson and unions can no doubt do a good deal of damage to O'Farrell, but strikes and obstructionism aren't what voters want from the opposition. NSW Labour desperately needs a clean-out, and Robertson is the last man for the job. They should beg Kristina to stay, give her carte blanche in rebuilding the party and shedding the deadwood. In four years time, she might have forged a competitive team, and in eight, she might have a winner. If Robertson's put in charge, O'Farrell could end up running NSW longer than Gadaffi's run Libya.
Posted by donkeygod, Sunday, 27 March 2011 11:06:20 AM
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Here's a question.

Why didn't so many disillusioned Labor voters in NSW just exhaust their preferences or vote Green?

They hate the Carbon Tax.

Labor's finished in NSW and Federally. The same NSW fools who bought NSW Carr, Iemma, Rees, and Kenneally and now apparently Robertson had an extraordinary influence in bringing us Latham, Rudd, Gillard and whoever's the next saviour federally.

You are right donkeygod, some people just cannot learn ... and some like the NSW former labor votes are just plain slow. But to be talking about a resurgent ALP within hours of such a disgraceful and embarassing drubbing is worse than not learning or being slow ... it defies the reality labor cannot possibly rebuild from here ... with your type of lack of thought.

I heard an AlpBC commentator predicting O'Farrell's early demise this morning, because he had too many new members for god's sake, and with Robertson being competitive next election and winning the following.

lol as you say some never learn.
Posted by keith, Sunday, 27 March 2011 12:14:18 PM
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People just haven't woke up to the fact that Australian government on all tiers has been appropriated lock stock and barrel by "globalisation", largely of the neolib type. People are waiting for decisons on things that governments no longer are able or will in to do for fear of the Big End of Town and its string pullers in Tokyo, City of London, Wall St, Washington etc, off shore.
Deindustrialisation destroyed the labor base, the national project idea is dead in its tracks and the vultures and grubs colonised the corpse in different ways, according to type, years ago.
All that's left is Hansonist ignorance, induced in a mediatised system whose final act was the self-mutilation represented in the destruction of public news and broadcasting.
Posted by paul walter, Sunday, 27 March 2011 4:32:22 PM
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So the next question to ask is how long will it take the public to work out the NSW Lib/Nats are just as bad?
Posted by Kenny, Sunday, 27 March 2011 6:33:08 PM
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Too true Paul Walter.See http://secretofoz.com/ L Frank Baum in his book"The Wizard of Oz' had deep economic meaning that explained the reason for misery we are suffering now.The revolution has begun.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 27 March 2011 6:38:01 PM
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Kenny

Given both their historys ... a bloody long time.
Posted by keith, Sunday, 27 March 2011 8:45:15 PM
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It was no secret that Labor would lose, it was only by how much and it was a landslide. However Barry O'Farrell did not have to work hard to win, the other side lost support with the party faithful. Not sure why the party faithful left it so long but the previous election was won by Labor (IMO) on fears about erosion of employee conditions and wages with the federal push for WorkChoices.

Our family also avoids Sydney like the plague. We loved it as kids, it has much to offer and a visit to relatives was always thoroughly enjoyed. Now it is a most unpleasant place to be unless one resides in the leafy north shore or the inner burbs and do not have to venture out too far.

If Barry O'Farrell is successful in his promise to reduce pressure on Sydney's infrastructure by boosting regional NSW that will indeed be a step in the right direction toward fixing some of Sydney's woes.

However whether NSW just voted for another neo-liberal, assett selling government that will be no better than the former is yet to be determined.

We live in hope.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 28 March 2011 9:55:37 AM
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Arjay, I'd be looking to the Money Master and Horns of the Beast for extra reading along with Wizard of OZ, on the face of it.
A state bank?
We have had one in SA for long time, in a mild form.
We have not collapsed into anarchy, for its presence.
But it runs counter to the times. All they are interested in these days in closing out that sort of thing and then trying to lay hands on the rest that's still of value.
Posted by paul walter, Monday, 28 March 2011 1:18:33 PM
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Pelican writes

'Not sure why the party faithful left it so long but the previous election was won by Labor (IMO) on fears about erosion of employee conditions and wages with the federal push for WorkChoices. '

And yet the diehards argue vehemently that the thrashing of the Greens/Labour have nothing to do with the federal carbon tax this time around. They certainly like to have it both ways. Nothing like being blinded by dogma. Great to see the Christian Democrats gain control in upper house rather than the extreme Greens.
Posted by runner, Monday, 28 March 2011 2:26:31 PM
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runner
Labor was going to lose long before any mention of the Carbon Tax. I am not supportive of a Carbon Tax, but I don't think it was the cruncher for the traditional labor voters in NSW who were already fed up to the back teeth with privatisation, disunity, lack of involvement of the grass roots and rorting etal.

The Carbon Tax certainly may have added a later sweetener for those sitting on the fence but I reckon there were not too many fence sitters which is evidenced by the landslide victory.
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 2:44:28 PM
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