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Snowy Hydro derivatives play submerges farmers : Comments

By Jennifer Marohasy, published 17/2/2011

To maximise its profit through the Snowy Hydro Corporation released water for hydro generation into swollen flood waters.

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Jennifer, what makes you think that hydro electricity is non-essential? Snowy Hydro was only able to sell the electricity because the National Electricity Market deemed it WAS required. Sure it may have been possible to replace the clean hydro electricity with electricity from fossil-fuel power stations but that adds to our burgeoning greenhouse gas problem. What is more important? Storing water for a future (non-) rainy day or saving the planet?
Posted by Martin N, Thursday, 17 February 2011 1:09:00 PM
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The style of hydro 'management' revealed in the article beggars belief!

Surely at a time when environmental flows in the form of floods were already occurring naturally in the Murray, Murrumbidgee, and Darling river systems, and Lake Eucumbene at the top of the system was only around 30% full, the thing to do would have been to deploy available NSW off-peak thermal generation capacity into the night time pumping of water BACK uphill from Talbingo, upstream from Blowering, to Eucumbene. As I understand it, much of this NSW off-peak thermal capacity otherwise goes unsold.

As I have always understood it, there was always intended to have been a pumped-storage capability built into the Snowy scheme. Why isn't it in use?

Snowy Hydro Corporation would not in the end have been out of pocket. It would still have been able later to generate hydro electricity to meet peak demands at premium prices whenever it eventually did release the conserved water for whatever purpose, into the Talbingo and, downstream, Blowering, dams.

The article does raise the same question as to the conflict of interest between water conservation and electricity generation on the one hand, and provision for flood mitigation on the other, as was starkly revealed in the effectively legislatively forced mis-management of the Wivenhoe dam that seemingly converted an otherwise minor flood into a major one for Brisbane.

For heaven's sake, all generating entities are government corporations. What sort of abdication of responsibility by governments stops them from all being on the one page in a matter like this?




It is worth remarking somewhat tangentially to this article, upon the importance and public service rendered by blogs like Jennifer's in getting these sorts of apparent scandals out into the open. Viewers should be made aware that Jennifer's blog, together with OLO itself, as a participant in 'The Domain' internet advertising package brokered by OLO, is one of the victims of a campaign aimed at depriving such sites of advertising revenue.

Viewers can read more about that here: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11583&page=0
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Thursday, 17 February 2011 1:44:16 PM
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What a tragedy that vilification of Jennifer Marohasy takes the place of a rational discussion.
For old people such as myself it is easy to remember the reason for the Snowy Hydro scheme. As she says it was for flood relief as well as electricty generation.
However, like most factors of life outside capital cities, the Green (Party as well as NGO's) philosophies have taken precedence over sensible cautious management.
Here in Victoria we have well over two million hectares of burnt out bush because Senator Bob Brown and his misguided clan refuse to recognise the value of cool or planned or prescribed burning in autumn and spring.
Across the world, misguided individuals insist that humans are altering climate across the globe. More Green rubbish, based upon the success of Lysenkoism in Josef Stalins era.
Posted by phoenix94, Thursday, 17 February 2011 1:56:28 PM
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Forrest there is a pumped hydro facility in the Snowy scheme but it’s at Tumut 3. It can have no impact on Lake Eucumbene of course which is some 900 m higher. Your suggestion of a new pumped hydro facility from Blowering to Eucumbene could have merit but best of luck convincing the Greens.
Posted by Martin N, Thursday, 17 February 2011 2:25:12 PM
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Commercial in confidence.

GET IT!

You dumb clucks.

CEO
Snowy Hydro
Posted by KAEP, Thursday, 17 February 2011 4:18:25 PM
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This mischievous rubbish has already been debunked on Jennifer's own blog. Additionally both Snowy Hydro and the NSW Office of Water have shot this down.

Jennifer has cited no evidence that water was released from the Snowy Scheme into flooded areas, let alone that it exacerbated flood impacts.

All Jennifer can demonstrate is that water has been transferred out of Eucumbene Reservoir - several steps removed from releasing water into a flooded Tumut River.

Jennifer, please quit spreading this unproven, malicious slur.
Posted by Anti Neo-Luddite, Friday, 18 February 2011 3:50:11 PM
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