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Don't neglect innovation : Comments

By Nicholas Gruen, published 27/1/2011

Not enough government funding is going to research, even though the returns are on average 50%.

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The problem isn’t that we’re getting nowhere. It’s that I am consistently logically disproving your arguments and you are not recognizing it because you have an unfalsifiable belief system.

“We cannot prove beforehand if any system will work. We can prove it does not work after we build it.”

That is not correct. We can proved beforehand – on paper - that a system will not work WITH 100% CERTAINTY. Your belief that nothing can be proved in theory would only be true if the laws of physics and logic do not apply to human action.

For example, we already know beforehand, that you can’t endlessly increase production by endlessly increasing the amount of fertilizer you put on a piece of land.

Don’t we?

Therefore I have proved you wrong.

Another classic example is Mises proof that economic calculation is impossible under socialism. This proved that, if tried, the result would be economic chaos, political totalitarianism and mass starvation.

Yet the socialists, ignoring this and following your belief system that nothing could be proved or disproved in theory, went right ahead and provided the disproof *in practice* – at a costs of over 100 million deaths – and all the economic chaos and political totalitarianism anyone could possibly want.

Yet you still have THE SAME BELIEF – that government could run “any area”. When faced with disproofs, you simply ignore them and carry on circularly repeating the same disproved fallacies.

It’s you who believe in magic. I have disproved your belief that we can create net wealth by forced redistributions, and you haven’t even recognized the fact.

The flaw in your argument is this. You have IGNORED the negative effect of government on innovation, have IRRATIONALLY INFLATED the positive effects, and have falsely confounded the community with the state.

It’s not that we’re talking past each other; it’s that you haven’t got to square one in establishing your case. You are just circularly repeating false beliefs; no better, and no different, than reciting a belief in the magic of rain dances or sacrificing virgins.
Posted by Peter Hume, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 9:47:51 AM
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