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Pope Benedict XVI and Condoning Condoms: If you don't have anything nice to say… : Comments

By Sophie Harman, published 1/12/2010

While Pope Benedict's position may be unclear it is politically deft and a definite shift in Catholic thinking.

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*and some of your statistics were made up by the abortion industry.*

Of course they were Vanna. Just pulled out of a hat. All those women
dying, just a figment of imagination. If only it were true. The
WHO would strongly disagree with you. Its tens of thousands of women
a year btw.

Yes, we have a higher abortion rate then we should. Our sex education
at schools is not the best. We could learn alot from countries like
the Dutch.

*because the Catholic church seldom fights back.*

Err hang on Vanna, the Catholic Church used to have people like me
burned at the stake. Not so many hundred years ago either.

The church ruled with an iron fist. Luckily Europe woke up to them.
I guess it was pointed out to them, that burning people at the stake,
is hardly Christian.

Meantime the third world suffers hugely from their backward
family planning policy, for in the third world they still have a say.
Unlike Europe, where even Italians voted them down and voted for
abortion reform. Luckily the world woke up to the Catholic Church,
or at least the Vatican, for its not the public, but the top
in Rome, where the problem lies.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 3 December 2010 8:03:23 PM
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Made up?

My sister lived in the north of Thailand in the mid 1970s. One of her friends took it upon herself to explain the use of condoms to the local women. Of course, Mechai Viravaidya has transformed the lives of many in Thailand with his family planning campaigns. The benefits are very evident and substantial.

In contrast, the Philippines has virtually no contraception for its poor as a result of Catholic Hierarchy opposition. The resultant deprivation and suffering is very evident and substantial.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2032491,00.html
Posted by Fester, Friday, 3 December 2010 8:53:34 PM
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Yabby

"THE SECOND KEY TACTIC WAS TO PLAY THE CATHOLIC CARD
We systematically vilified the Catholic Church and its "socially backward ideas" and picked on the Catholic hierarchy as the villain in opposing abortion. This theme was played endlessly."
http://www.aboutabortions.com/Confess.html

Seems that theme is still being played out in certain feminist universities around the world.

The Catholic church is but one church. Many academics are too cowardly to critise other religions that have carried out just as much if not more harm than the Catholic church, or too cowardly to condem marxism, that has actually killed more people than any religion or political system ever developed.
Posted by vanna, Friday, 3 December 2010 9:32:58 PM
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Vanna, your author has a point. Its not the Catholic Church that
is the problem, but the last pope and the Vatican hierarchy.

The man clearly carried all sorts of chips on his shoulder, hundreds
of millions paid a huge price.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/3147672.stm

You can download the transcript, to see the kind of stuff that goes
on, all due to the Vatican. They should be ashamed of themselves,
claiming to be humane.

*Many academics are too cowardly to critise other religions that have carried out just as much if not more harm than the Catholic church*

Nonsense. Every religion and every political movement is critisized.
The Catholic Church, thanks to the Vatican, is more political them
most. The pope thinks everyone should abide by his teachings, not
just his flock of sheep. Those leaders in Rome deserve to be told
what we think of them and why.

No wonder the church benches in the Western world have emptied out
and they need to turn to the third world, where people are less
educated and a bit more gullible, to get Catholic bums on seats.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:23:48 PM
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Vanna

As I understand things, the unavailability of contraception to the poor in the Philippines is solely due to the Catholic hierarchy. Here is another example of the wonderful results of this policy:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1812250,00.html

I often watch animal welfare shows, and commonly see the animal protection officers at the property of a mentally challenged person presiding over a huge population of horrendously neglected animals living in abhorrent filth. It flummoxes me to see a mass of well educated people representing a great and venerable church making decisions which lead to similar consequences for human beings.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:33:28 PM
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Yabby..............No wonder the church benches in the Western world have emptied out
and they need to turn to the third world, where people are less
educated and a bit more gullible, to get Catholic bums on seats.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:23:48 PM

And that's dead on balls accurate. 2000 to 6000 thousand years of using mankind for its own gain...........and now the west ( USA ) one of the biggest religion center's in the world have now seen the light, so to speak. Yes Yabby...........they will be going hunting like always......after those of who cant think for themselves.

One thing the religious groups didn't see coming...........was the evolution of man.

There not helping the poor in these third world lands...........from what Ive read..............their thinking is killing them.

BLUE
Posted by Deep-Blue, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:42:15 PM
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