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Just how green are The Greens? : Comments

By Mark Poynter, published 13/10/2010

The Greens’ forests agenda is set to undermine effective climate action.

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It's even worse than that. Though most don't realise it, The Greens badly need backup electricity generation from waste woodchip biomass to make their dreams of a renewable (primarily solar and wind)-powered Australia even remotely viable. But, you guessed it, they're opposed to that, too.
Posted by Mark Duffett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 10:21:56 PM
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Yes those evil greenies are the only ones talking at all about biosecurity and foreign imports (seeing Al bought up issues of independence and sovereignty).

What an evil agenda - saving forests, trying to minimise pollution of waterways and the atmosphere, and even stopping progress even if it means destroying the very planet we depend on for survival.

Those disgusting Greens.

Sheesh...talk about self-delusion.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 10:26:33 PM
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I have been on debate forums with them online & in person. They always had no ideas about what positive could be done, only about what to stop, all progress & jobs.
Posted by Formersnag,

For this parties out-look can hardly fit the bill that you have given with that cold description of yours. The clear and wise forecast for the worlds future is to use new technologies with a hold range of new building products which don't and do not need wood.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjameshardie.com.au%2F&rct=j&q=new%20building%20materials%202010&ei=Kqy1TNj6KYeecIuVzLII&usg=AFQjCNHvwwo0ITxh9wPV1QRARz3sV67d8Q&cad=rja

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=news&cd=1&ved=0CCMQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marketwatch.com%2Fstory%2Faxion-international-to-hold-2010-annual-meeting-of-shareholders-on-october-22-2010-10-13%3Freflink%3DMW_news_stmp&rct=j&q=new%20building%20materials%202010&ei=fKy1TLuBIMHBcf7a-NwI&usg=AFQjCNFuXjl9k9yU4FTeqjXlJiQtVGclHA&cad=rja

And the list goes on.

The worlds people knows the strife we will all be in if we continue use old and quite frankly, unsustainable building products like wood. A small % yes! Its unavoidable in some application of construction and building, but best leave the trees for carbon storage.

Second and three world countries will deplete the existing rain-forests if they continue by 2060-plus, and this as you know, is off the table completely.

First, we’re not facing a choice between the growth of old economy jobs and the expansion of new energy jobs, but between decline and prosperity. One global economy, the clean one, is growing, and the global battle for the new jobs is on. Some countries – such as China, Germany, Spain, Portugal, and many others – are going after these jobs aggressively. The other part of the economy – the dead fuel economy – is not going to be a growth engine (with the important exception of natural gas, which may provide a useful, medium-term bridge to the future). Oil is basically at peak production globally, and coal plants are nearly impossible to build in the U.S. anymore. Even as the world demands more energy, and even as fossil fuel production continues, these companies will continue to get more efficient with labor. So don’t count on the fossil guys to create new wealth and jobs.

Formersnag,

Trees to pull the carbon.

Thats the go.

TTM
Posted by think than move, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 11:19:29 PM
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Mark,the so called greens factious latent 60's agenda,is wholly unprincipled in their quest to gain any electable status by any means possible. After spending along time in the woods,the "new greens" then magically perform an on stage low ball fling, where they can cavort and compromise with the other, so called sensible. And with these so called sensible's, particularly the grand ignoble labor party, together have sold out the artisans and those who thought they held a work ethic outside the public service. When you really look at what the green labor parties have delivered and then recognise that it is only the liberal and national parties who have an interest in defending these particular occupations or in the labor vernacular 'jobs' it does not take long to recognize who is the greatest threat to a society wanting to produce its best in a world marketplace. That's why green labor does not want to talk about their locally enforced trade barriers but endlessly rants about international barriers to trade like the latest from Prime minister Gillard and her minister Emerson.
Posted by Dallas, Thursday, 14 October 2010 2:03:14 AM
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SNAG..... dammit..now you've put me off Guava juice :) grrr..I love the stuff but now ? aaargh...I'll think of your post each time GREENS..yuk yuk.

HOW the Greens will LOVE to HATE this....

The Israeli's have found a way of using the pressure from traveling cars to generate electricity in the ROAD ! ! !

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israeli-scientists-turn-rush-hour-traffic-into-electricity-1.6588

Awwwwwww.. pat pat.. poor greens.. just when they thought all cars would be abolished and only public transport allowed... *pat*
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 14 October 2010 5:36:40 AM
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The Australian Democrats grew in size until the point where they actually had some decisive influence on national politics: whereupon they demonstrated their lack of contact with reality, alienated the electorate and quickly disappeared from the scene. I suspect the Greens have now reached that same point. We can only hope so.
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 14 October 2010 6:15:31 AM
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