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For whom are we voting on August 21st? : Comments

By Bryan Kavanagh, published 5/8/2010

The Democrats are the only party whose constitution calls for land value capture at all three levels of government.

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Dear Mr. Kavanagh,

Mr. Kavanagh

Again you have been caught dreaming that there are political solutions to the woes of planet Earth (note that I did not say our planet Earth).

When you wake up, please, try to remember from which side of politics came that little vote that gave us the easy fix named GST and note that Ferguson may be a wee-bit superficial but Stiglitz cannot be far wrong.

I don’t know if you have to be readying for the blow right now or are your children that will have to bear it, but humanity cannot go on politicking blindly for too long.
Posted by skeptic, Thursday, 5 August 2010 9:12:34 PM
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Ten Hundred points Bryan Kavanagh, with Democrats leader Cheryl Kernot coming back in frame.... to help ignite conversation to "change politics" I have hope. I miss the Democrats.

No make that I "seriously" miss the Democrats. With encouragement perhaps we could help call them back... least for a reason which is to get over-ourselves. All the verbal violence and bigotry... the intolerance, behavior characteristics and poor state of mind we resort to as we watch particularly the Liberals battle it out in politics. Just look at Mr Downers comments the other day on Mr Rudd. ie: "Downer's taunts not proper for UN envoy"

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/contributors/downers-taunts-not-proper-for-un-envoy-20100802-113gm.html

Or opposition Senator George Brandis negative gear on 'Blood-letting' on Lateline Wednesday Night. So out of place in the context that it was expressed.

Anyways... your article here is a bit technical for me here at present as I look and perceive the importance of all we have earned thus far, over the past few years amid the GFC, against all the aspirations still on the table, given what still has to be done.

Please continue writing - I like where you are coming from. We will have to become increasingly applied if we are to bop over the humps we face as a nation, on this planet in the next decade.

It's Time, Time Now. Let's not miss the beat.

http://www.miacat.com/
Posted by miacat, Friday, 6 August 2010 12:20:59 AM
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Brian, “Liberal party is more economically responsible (yeah, that’s why it allowed the real estate bubble to develop from 1997 to 2007 without blinking an eye)”

Wrong

The liberal party did not ”allow” anything,

The Liberal government simply determined that to “pretend to control” such things was beyond the authority of government.

House prices are, despite any pet fetish you may have to the contrary, still subject to market forces.

One of those forces is the impact of the prevailing interest rate. Which, under the Liberals dropped rapidly from 1996 onward.

Another force was an economic boom, which ended shortly after the socialists came to power. That influence meant income increases, improved discretionary incomes and the ability to pay more for a house, another house price increasing influence.

If I have to explain it further, then I fear it would be like “casting pearls before swine”…
But will leave this part of my reply with this quote on the volatility of booms and prices of houses and other things

"Adam Smith's 'invisible hand' is not above sudden, disturbing, movements. Since its inception, capitalism has known slumps and recessions, bubble and froth; no one has yet dis-invented the business cycle, and probably no one will; and what Schumpeter famously called the 'gales of creative destruction' still roar mightily from time to time. To lament these things is ultimately to lament the bracing blast of freedom itself."

So we come to the nub of your dissertation of the enfeebled

“but the surplus goes to the Australian people.”

But it does not.

It goes to the Australian government, to fritter away on pointless “nation-building” exercises and doing things for the “common-good”

You are just touting what amounts to additional taxes.

It is the idiots who think that taxing people more adds anything to the whole.

As Margaret Thatcher, rightly, pointed put

“The larger the slice taken by government, the smaller the cake available for everyone."

You are simply promoting a larger spice for government, leaving everyone with a greater sense of impoverishment.

Not an election winning strategy I feel!
Posted by Stern, Friday, 6 August 2010 10:26:58 AM
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DEMA...who ? DEMA....what ?

Demagogues ?
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Friday, 6 August 2010 10:41:55 AM
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