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Global warming deniers and their proven strategy of doubt : Comments

By Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway, published 18/6/2010

Science has been effectively undermined, eroding public support for the decisive action needed to avoid the worst effects of global warming.

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Good news, about the Cooler Heads Coalition. There is no doubt about AGW being the greatest attempted fraud in history, but it has incredible impetus behind it.

The proceeds would be in the trillions, because legislation would enable carbon credits, given enforced value through legislation, but having no real value, to be traded among entities forced by legislation to acquire a worthless item.

At least the fraud in selling worthless mortgages caught up with the perpetrators, and there was a subsequent shakeout of the market, and cessation of selling fraudulent securities.

If the AGW fraud succeeds, the enforced sale and purchase of worthless carbon credits will continue to drain the economies of the Western world, or at least where the scurrilous legislation is passed.

That will not include countries with honest government, of which at the moment there is only one, the Czech Republic, where the President has told his constituents the truth, that AGW is a fraud. Only one nation!

The President Vaclav Klaus says that he has approached many world leaders, to persuade them to tell their constituents the truth, and has been uniformly rebuffed. He has written a book, “Blue Planet in Green Shackles” to explain the fraud, and recently congratulated Professor Ian Plimer on his book “Heaven and Earth” which exposes the fraud, and is a best seller in three countries.

There are reasons to hope that the truth will prevail, and the attempted fraud will fail.

That the push for this fraud continues in the face of a complete absence of any scientific base for the assertion of anthropogenic global warming is breathtaking.

There is settled science which demonstrates that all warming is accounted for from natural sources, and there is no room, scientifically, for the assertion that human emissions have any measureable effect.
Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 18 June 2010 3:03:17 PM
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Leo, you are a sucker!
The oil industry has you convinced that a bunch of scientists working for peanuts have duped the world, corrupted nearly all professional scientists (except for a few non-climatologist which are on the payroll)...meanwhile the *hugely* profitable fossil fuels industry is innocent as a baby! Are you serious?
Also please stop lying. There is no "settled science" that shows any such thing! Please cite peer reviewed articles if you are going to disagree with the conclusions of an entire profession.
The CSIRO recently went public saying "GW is real, the science is settled". Are you suggesting our entire climate and research agencies are corrupt without a single whistle blower evident? Are you suggesting they are so silly as to avoid the lucrative role of "whistle blower" if there was any truth to what you say?
This conspiracy rubbish is easily checked, and easily rebuked.
Posted by Ozandy, Friday, 18 June 2010 3:18:44 PM
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Ozandy

We should be rejoicing at Leo's "news". It means we can continue to use all non-renewable resources, pollute the atmosphere, rivers, seas, destroy entire environments, eradicate bio-diversity, overpopulate, continue to drive V8's and 4WD's. Here's to business-as-usual.

At no cost to ourselves whatsoever.

Party on dudes.
Posted by Severin, Friday, 18 June 2010 3:42:40 PM
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BTW. Do I sound peeved? You bet!
Having my co-workers being accused of outright fraud when working with some of the most diligent, professional workers I've ever had the pleasure to work with is somewhat annoying. Hearing the absolutely stupid theories, the irrelevant "evidence" and the sheer rhetoric...yes it is quite disturbing.
Having just come from the banking and finance industry which genuinely *is* full of fraud and incompetence and watching these leaches cause a global meltdown that should have been avoided...I'm reminded of the saying "If people act like sheep they deserve to be sheared". Well, we'll reap what we sow if we let the wealthy few deny the facts for another generation.
Along with "intelligent design" and other pseudo-mythical "knowledge", this anti-truth movement is getting out of hand.
Posted by Ozandy, Friday, 18 June 2010 3:43:45 PM
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Leo Lane “If the AGW fraud succeeds, the enforced sale and purchase of worthless carbon credits will continue to drain the economies of the Western world, or at least where the scurrilous legislation is passed.”

Indeed it would

It is the right of every tax payer and consumer to exercise scepticism about AGW

Millions of people were enslaved by the likes of Lenin under the lie that bad things were necessary for the sake of “common good” and “survival of the species”

We are not required to pay homage to the so-called climate scientists simply because climate scientists and the snake-oil salesmen, like Al Gore, tell us they know best.
Posted by Stern, Friday, 18 June 2010 3:47:27 PM
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"The President Vaclav Klaus says that he has approached many world leaders, to persuade them to tell their constituents the truth, and has been uniformly rebuffed. He has written a book, “Blue Planet in Green Shackles” to explain the fraud, and recently congratulated Professor Ian Plimer on his book “Heaven and Earth” which exposes the fraud, and is a best seller in three countries."

Well Plimer's book is fraught with disinformation so he's flogging the book under false pretences which makes Plimer a fraud. Klaus is an economist and has zero training in climate science. Is that the best you can come up with?
Posted by Protagoras, Friday, 18 June 2010 3:48:56 PM
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