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Tough talk about a return to the Pacific Solution : Comments

By Susan Metcalfe, published 3/6/2010

There is no evidence to support the Coalition’s claim that the Pacific Solution stopped the boat arrivals to Australia in 2001.

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Horus, I am happy to be a mellon but it's really not worth trying with people who cannot grasp what it is to be a refugee. Being a city dweller or a camp dweller does not give you refugee status. Can't you even try to imagine being outside your country in another country where you cannot live legally, can't work, must pay bribes not to be deported, live on the streets maybe, in fear of being sent back to where you will be killed? and everything else that goes with that. A refugee has a genuine fear of persecution, we don't take people because they are poor, they are the ones you deride as economic migrants just wanting a better life (what a terible crime..). Stereotypes are good only for reinforcing your own prejudice, they have nothing to do with reality.
Posted by mellom, Thursday, 10 June 2010 9:39:57 AM
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and Horus why aren't 50% of all the city people in Sthrn Asia building boats and coming down if their lives are on the same level as refugees living amongst them without any rights?
Posted by mellom, Thursday, 10 June 2010 9:47:12 AM
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As I recall, "mellon" means friend in Elvish ;)
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 10 June 2010 9:51:15 AM
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Mellon is a person's name that means pleasant in some countries. Nice to see the bigots are out in force as usual on the online forum.
Posted by echidna, Thursday, 10 June 2010 10:23:01 AM
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Well, Mellom, I’m sure I can’t cure your rescuer syndrome. But I ‘ll try to fine tune it a bit for you.Whoever’s been telling you that we don’t take economic climbers disguised as refugees is tell you porkies.

Don’t take my word for it …check it for yourself .

You might recall a little incident involving a vessel called the Oceanic Viking. Remember, it rescued some supposed castaways who turned out to have staged the whole event.

But worse, after being taken on board, they refused to disembark.
They wanted instead to bargain/blackmail: “telling the Australian Government it could end the impasse if it took them to New Zealand, Canada, France or Scandinavia”

Take a long look at that shopping list – it’s not the stuff of desperation . It's the work of some really shrewd shoppers.
Not a single no-frills nations there – all of them affluent, welfare states!

And yes, they got what they demanded !

Then, we have old echidna over there: “Nice to see the bigots are out in force as usual on the online forum”
There’s nothing prejudice about him, ay! He’s just full of loving kindness!
Posted by Horus, Thursday, 10 June 2010 9:15:57 PM
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*they are the ones you deride as economic migrants just wanting a better life (what a terible crime..).*

Nobody claims that its a crime, Mellom, just that there are more
deserving genuine refugees out there, who simply cannot afford
the trip to Australia. A genuine humanitarian programme IMHO,
should be helping those, not those clamouring for a 1st world
lifestyle, who can achieve it due to their money, crime or no crime.

Millions of Hazaras and Tamils live in their countries, that is
the reality. Yes, third world life is rougher then first world
life. Nobody disputes that.

What is in dispute is this. If we are going to take 13'000 a year,
we should be taking the most deserving, not those who have the
financial backup to push their way through the door. Its not
about crime, it's a basic ethical argument, which may well be
beyond you.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 10 June 2010 9:47:46 PM
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