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The young and the homeless : Comments

By George Seymour, published 9/4/2010

On any given night in Australia there are about 105,000 people homeless, almost half of whom are under the age of 25.

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Let us be careful. Never let any fact get too close to our comfort zone.

We know that homelessness is with us and it is a problem of ours.

However, we can see it as not ours. After all, it is the homeless’ problem. Is it not?
Posted by skeptic, Saturday, 10 April 2010 11:07:34 AM
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Well done on getting the message about Youth Homelessness out there.

Some of the comments here show exactly why it is needed. People repeating Tony Abbot's ludicrious statement that some people choose to be homeless!

There are tons of events being organised across the country for the day highlighting the level of the problem in australia http://www.youthhomelessnessmatters.net/How_to_Make_Youth_Homelessness_Matter/About_YHMD/YHM_2010_Countdown_-_Everyone_Counts/Events/2010_events.aspx
Posted by jughead, Saturday, 10 April 2010 12:21:42 PM
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The "homeless" youth in my contact over past couple of years:

(a) are not prepared to pay for their own accomodation ;

(b) are not prepared to submit to [IMHO reasonable] terms and conditions for tenancy;

(c) believe someone, somewhere will provide them with close to cost free accommodation, with negligible terms and conditions ;

(d) are not prepared to move where they can afford accommodation ;

(e) frequently told their choice to be homeless is someone else's fault - more victim culture ;

(f) blame someone else when evicted from their acccommodation for the damage they did and refuse to pay for repairs ;

(g) move in with someone else until they also evicted from their acccommodation as result damage done by these squatting tenants, when the squatter-tenant and leasee-tenant both refuse to pay for the repairs ;

(h) they believe their Centrelink monies are for their nice things, not for payment of rent or board ;

Whilst eventually most learn they have to make agreements, keep agreements, concerning payments and behavior, do NOT understand why these youth (and not so youthful) are constantly treated as victims, when they are predators...

What are reasonable rules before letting these predators stay in your home ?

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Posted by polpak, Sunday, 11 April 2010 5:00:39 PM
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Demand needs encourage supply so matches.

IF serious about reducing "Youth Homelessness" welfare professionals and their employers need take out covering leases, then sublet to their clients.

These welfare groups take on the risk, to recover costs back from their sub-tenant clients.

This way more landlords prepared agree to such header-leases.

IF government serious about resolving youth homelessness should provide such contracts, along with tax incentives to encourage construction of more single room units suited to these tenants.

Will you invest your retirement fund money towards such without secure contracts ?
Posted by polpak, Sunday, 11 April 2010 5:20:30 PM
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These pseudo statistics conveniently ignore some of the "real" facts. When you do voluntary work on food vans & soup kitchens the clientele are invariably 90% middle aged men. Almost all of them after divorce & whose children are also, being neglected, abused by their, "alleged" single mothers.

Some of the older men i have met "sleeping rough" actually have a housing commission home. However some clever "social worker" moved a "homeless youth" into the unit, next door. So now they are being assaulted every other day for "drug money". Then, said "homeless youth's" mates get to squat in the empty unit next door & trash the place.

Some "deadbeat single mothers" who also have a housing commission home, go "on the run" from DOCS with their children.

100% of the few "homeless youth" you meet, at food vans, came from a "dysfunctional family", nearly always a deadbeat, single mother.

So you see the "Perpetual Motion Engine" HAS, in fact, already been invented by "Social Engineers" from the red/green/labour coalition, way back in the 1970's. You use taxpayers money in the "Anti Family" law court, to break homes, create poverty, neglect & abuse children. > this requires more "social workers" who train these broken children to fail at life, breed more broken children, > who need more "social workers" to spread more "fear & loathing" between the sexes, > who establish CSA formulas that encourage more "single mothers" to have one child only to 4 different fathers, > who need more "social workers" etc, etc, etc.

The "Perpetual Motion Engine" requires no energy or fuel at all as there is lots of "hot air" & taxpayers money, going into it, exponentially fuelling growth for 40 years now. Coming to a, "Murray Fields" or "Wadai" nearer to you every day now.

Criminologists say that crime stats across the modern western, English speaking, world were fairly consistent (per capita) throughout history until the 1970's. There has been a steady growth since then.
Posted by Formersnag, Monday, 12 April 2010 2:55:34 PM
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'On any given night in Australia there are about 105,000 people homeless, almost half of whom are under the age of 25.'

'n terms of defining the term, I understand that many people only consider rough sleepers to be homeless, the ABS would define this as primary homelessness, but they also count secondary and tertiary homelessness. In my view people living in cars and moving from couch to couch are also in need - however we define their circumstances.'

Oh, it's like the 'regretted sex' as rape stats. Take something terrible, expand the definition exponentially to increase the figures to make it a more 'impressive' problem.

I wonder why we aren't interested in how many men as opposed to women are on the streets, and why we aren't wearing cardboard boxes and having a cardboard box day...

To homeless Men; Australia says no!
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 12 April 2010 5:45:08 PM
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