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Kevin, we need to talk about you : Comments

By Gary Johns, published 11/3/2010

If the first term of a Labor government is not to be a complete waste of time then serious conversations have to take place.

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Of course Johns is also a clone and propaganda hack for the IPA (the institute of hollow men). And associates with the CIS too.
The CIS is of course a propaganda factory for the Chicago boyz world-view, the applied politics of which is described in The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.

The brutal politics of the Shock Doctrine was also given support by right wing "catholics", especially by Opus Dei. I wonder therefore if the Public Policy Institute is also an Opus Dei propaganda outfit, modeled after the Ethics and Public Policy Center in the USA.

For the relation between the Shock Doctrine, Opus Dei and the EPPC why not read this essay.

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_3.2/hammer_kellner.htm
Posted by Ho Hum, Thursday, 11 March 2010 12:35:49 PM
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Don't you love it when people start talking about disincentives to hire.

There were no disincentives to hire prior to Work Choices in fact the level of industrial dispute was at an all time low. The only industries that increased labour were in growth sectors like mining and IT. A number of Libs have openly stated (incl. Joe Hockey) that WC went too far.

If a business owner hires three retail shop assistants in a small country clothing store he/she is not going to hire another shop assistant on the basis of changes to legislation if that person is not needed.

Does the ALP need a new leader? Well maybe but that is a different question and has nothing to to do with anachronistic labour policy.
Posted by pelican, Thursday, 11 March 2010 2:07:01 PM
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The thrust of this article is simply "Bad Kevin!" without saying anything much. Pretty much sums up the state of economic "argument".
Not one "Conservative" commenter will admit that the Howard decade was a lost one: the obscenely rich got richer, the poor increased and got poorer and the middle class shrunk. All "financed" by overseas debt. Oh, suicides and crime increased dramatically (not that humans matter to these people). What's their magic bullet? More population and more lending.
A murder adds about A$1M to GDP. The profits of oil cleanup companies also add to GDP. We all know GDP growth is the Holy Grail of conservatives ("its the economy, stupid")...So more murders and oil spills are not just OK, but actually good? Quality of life is *much* more important but "conservatives" being a radical blinkered bunch only see profits. I say again: A society that allows the parasitic corporations to take control of 30%+ of the economy like ours is, is going down...Both sides of politics are currently incompetent.
We need to be working less hours and make corporations efficient instead of the large scale adult daycare that makes up most employment. Investment in public infrastructure is now embarrassing: Third world countries are passing us in quality of life while we go backwards.
The IPA and it's ilk are just scoundrels muddying the waters for their filthy, greedy masters.
Posted by Ozandy, Thursday, 11 March 2010 3:25:52 PM
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Ozandy
They can't even instal pink batts without killing people, burning down houses, and wasting billions of dollars. What makes you think they can "make corporations more efficient"?
Posted by Peter Hume, Thursday, 11 March 2010 3:29:43 PM
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People have short memories.

At the same point in Howard's first term, things were not much better for him.

Massive cutbacks, Telstra part-privatisation, Wik, several ministers sacked plus the first stages of Industrial Reform and of course, the Waterfront dispute.

Howard spent the first term desperately grasping at issues and symbols to try and give his government a sense of purpose and political authority. Flags, the waterfront, the GST, illegal immigrants were all crises made up out of thin air to make the government look decisive and with purpose. Costello was also in on the game and their first Budget was designed to give a sense of reform, which it didn’t have, and so later, the cuts were largely reversed.

Beazley actually got more primary votes in the following election - but in the seats he already held.

Perspective?

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/like-for-like-coalition-has-little-to-gloat-about-20100221-onu1.html
Posted by rache, Friday, 12 March 2010 1:35:24 AM
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Until politicians dump self interest in favour or good governance nothing will change. Rudd, Hockey, whatever the name of the current opposition leader, Howard, Vanstone, Ruddock et al on both sides. Can anyone really make and argument for a fundamental difference between any of them? It is all just Power, Power and more Power.
Posted by Daviy, Friday, 12 March 2010 11:25:53 AM
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